Charles Perry’s Uncovered Up Cover Up

With every boundary crossed, with every minute Cynthia Ortiz is violated and made to feel raped by Charles Perry, with every contact which is always made against her will, with each and every lie told about her, every slanderous statement, every penny robbed, every judge bought, every day Officer Nealey sits in jail for something he could not have done, every child exposed, every mother ruined, every family destroyed comes this, more recordings of Perry that get to police. The famous McNamara email was the first and detailed Perry’s plans to arrange the false arrest of Cynthia, the chick he’s stalking. That information came out of Lubbock. He did carry out that specific threat and has many more since to where it’s piled up quite high. Police obtain a lot of chatter about an individual Perry’s people refer to as “The Muffin Man”. See more below:

1)McNamara email


2)Fabian Puzzle
“It’s not legit but I will have her car towed and sold before she figures that out.”- Charles Perry


3) “They have your social security card. Drop what you are doing and report it stolen right now.” McNamara Police


4) “They have your spare credit card. Go look to confirm it’s missing and report it stolen right now.” – McNamara police


5) “He can’t get you kicked out because of the CoVid moratorium so he’s going to try to get you kicked out on smoking “


6) “You make sure she takes the shot. You make sure she thinks she will die if she doesn’t and we will just tell everyone she had an unfortunate allergic reaction. ” — Charles Lee Perry serial killers always have three names.

7) “Her name is Mary Beth, sometimes goes by Beth. He spilt her skull in two and dumped her at a lake just outside Billings Montana


8) “We are getting sick and tired if being told when we can talk to Cyndi and what we can say. It’s none of his business. He’s butting in where he’s not been invited. She’s our friend. She’s our family and we want her to be happy and not smothered by a delusional criminal. ” — Cymthia’s friends and family


9) “We have to find a way to take her driver’s license away from her. ” — Charles Lee Perry – serial killers always have three names and grandiose thinking and sense of entitlement.
10) “See if you can’t get her uncle to talk her into leaving Oklahoma a d going to be with Charles. ” –Perrys guy


11) “What we are gonna do is harass her then when she tells on us we are going to have her charged with harassment and use her as a test case for the Supreme Court. Can’t we count in you to help? We will make it worth your while. ” — Charles Lee Perry


12) “Get her mileage off her car and find out if she’s got cruise control and how much fuel she has. We can’t have her talking to Mike Nealey. We gotta get that car from her so she can’t testify or go talk to Mike. ” Charles Lee Perry
Why? If you didn’t do.it what do you care?


13) “Get Cyndi a house, a car and an expense account or tell her that’s what we will do and see if you can’t her to follow the yellow brick road and shut that girl up. ” – Perry and Calvin


14) “Does she have any idea what I can do to her?” “I know she knows what you can do to her but can you not see what she can do to you? Look at all this she finds out and you have no idea how. So I’d back off what you think you can do to her and start worrying about what they are going with all this and how they will use it to what they do to you. ” — Calvin and Unidentified Person.


15) “We have had someone talk to Mike. He just cries and says he can’t remember anything. But you all need to quit coming up here and brow beating people. ” Matt Powell and Unidentified Person.


16) “She torpedoed my case. ” Matt Powell


17) “I wish I’d gotten to know Cynthia when she lived here. I would never have fallen for Charles Perry’s load of crap had I known her better. ” Matt Powell


18) “They called up here constantly wanting us to pull her over and give them information in her car and asked us to look into all these claims that turned out to be nothing. They wasted our time. They said they wanted to get her on harassment. Cynthia kept to herself and we knew they were doing doing things to her that she could have called us to report and she never called. She worked very hard trying to get those weird guys from Lubbock to just leave her alone so she could just live. It became very clear to us fairly early on that they were the ones doing the harassing, not her. They took so much of our time away from real crimes messing with that girl and it really pissed us off. ” OK Law Enforcement.

19) “Is that that chick those weird guys from Lubbock keep going at? ” Unidentified Person


20) “That bitch just pinned the tail on the donkey is what she just did. She just caught herself a bad guy. She dissected that murder of Chief Miller like a damn pro. ” — Individual in OK Law Enforcement.

20) “Perry comes up here says he’s married to Cynthia and tells her kid he’s his step dad. She won’t have a thing to do with him. Then she has these Bond Conditions where he agreed to stop bothering her then comes up here and says that shit. He said he was going to get her pregnant so she can’t leave him and they aren’t together and he can’t get it up. Turkey baster I guess. She won’t do it. He’d have to drug her. She’s not going to want that. This guy is those guys who have women locked in a basement somewhere. He gives me the creeps man. He’s creepy. I think he’s got chicks all caged in a basement is what I’m trying to say. I think all his property everywhere needs to be searched from top to bottom and land dug up and whatever you can do but his mind is fucked up and twisted and I’m telling there are dead bodies somewhere and women and probably kids he made those women have while in captivity locked up somewhere. He’s that weird. He makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up Man. You need to quit fucking with that guy and go look. ” — Younger but wiser OK cop to an old fart who is about 30 years past a good time to retire and go do something he’s a little better at because he’s not fit for police work if he can’t protect and serve properly. If he didn’t look he’s not fit.

21) “There won’t be a new car or a new apartment. ” -Charles Perry Once caught he had to back off subsequently “Well now she can’t say he wouldn’t let her get a new car and new apartment. He made sure she did. ” “You have any idea what she had to go through to get that? It’s a little bitty apartment and older car. What in hell is his problem that he puts her through all that just so she can have a little bitty apartment and that little bitty old car I mean Come on Man. Don’t say shit like that. She has to fight for everything she has and then once she gets it she will have to fight to keep it because he will try to take it away. That’s all he does all day long. Take from her. ” – Unidentified People


22) “Long as I’ve known Charles Perry he stalk women. He’s a sex pervert. He trolls and watches their schedule. He sees when they leave to go to work, has cameras installed in their home and sells watch time on the deep web. These women a d their kids have no idea. They have not given consent. They don’t even know. He watches for work place vulnerabilities and uses that to them fired. He then causes them to lose the house. They start asking family to help.so that causes conflict with family. He then has the ex take the kids away. He likes getting women hysterical then he goes and rubs one out. He’s a sex pervert. I’m glad someone is finally putting a stop to it because I’m tired of sleeping with one eye opened. “


23) “Do you have any idea what she’s doing Mr Powell? She’s is not supposed know of these proceedings. She does know and what she is doing is trying to communicate with me in the only way she can. Are you not seeing that is what she is doing, Sir? ” Judge


24) “If we can’t get her dancing again there is no more Rattatouie or Hansel and Gretel or Rumplestiltskin or Pin the tail on the donkey” – One if Perry’s guys listing the names of the plays from their pervert play book they try to use to hurt Cynthia. Pin the tail on the donkey for example is the term used when they have someone try to bait her out in a crime. They had a drug dealer at her work call her over to where he was sitting and he said “Can you do me a favor? As that guy up at the stage if wants some of my pot and I got some one here too. Ask him if he wants some. ” She said “Yeah no fuck you”. That was a cop and they wanted her false arrested on drug trafficking. She’s not a turnip truck Faller Offer and they contradict in that they try crap like that intending to cause her harm but the call around to see if she’s a cop and where she learned to sting op like she does. Rumplestiltskin is the play from the pervert play book when they try to get her to say her real name.


25) “This is interesting. I know only five people in the country who can do what she can do. ” Unidentified Person discussing her sting op skills and some other stuff she does to catch Perry’s criminal activity.


26) “I will find a way to lock her up again and she won’t get out this time unless she is with me. You need to give up. ” — Charles Lee Perry to Fabian in 2016. Fabian puzzle Perry is just temporary butt in and that is all he is to Cynthia. He’s just a job.


27)”Perry goes hunting with Judge Cummings. That’s where the hearings were, not in court. We know exactly how many times Perry has gone hunting with that judge. We will deal with that in our case. ” McNamara Police it’s a need to know. They don’t trust you, you dont need to know. Lucky Miller is dead. Little kids are watched in the privacy of their home where should be safe taking a bath so little old limp dick farts can go imagine they can jack off and that is as sick as it gets but the reality of the nature of these crimes and the reason for the status.


28) “These girls just think we are a bunch of old far sex perverts. We are businessmen. ” Nope. Businessmen get a contract and pay a fair fee for using services so.tjey dint create a liability that would kick them in the ass later down the road. Perry and Calvin or whoever that was Perry works with didn’t bother to get permission or pay for using the bodies of other human beings, or their property and utilities to make a profit and right they are fucked more than their slow minds are able to understand. All this recorded and Perry still will not leave Cynthia alone and his failure to do led to this coming out. She’s not told, nor are we, who informants are. That confidential. If a name is said or she recognizes a voice that’s the only way she can know. Perry has asked if his leaks are Zi, Kim, Ty and Jim. She doesn’t know and wouldn’t say if she did. He wants to know who told but couldn’t care less whose life he just devasted. We do care. That’s why we got all this.

29) “She doesn’t feel anything for you, Charles. You are trying to force her into something she doesn’t want to be in. She doesn’t want you. She wants me. You know this. ” Fabian to Charles Lee Perry – serial killers all have three names

30) “Perry looks like the Hobbit. He’s a Taylor Swift Song. That bitch comes up here and orders us around like we owe him something and threats us and says he has all this power and he can’t get a real date with someone who wants to be there. If he had power he could get a real date, hell even we can do that. Cynthia catches that bitch ever time he tries to do something to her. He cannot even get a real date. He’s spent the better part of a decade sitting around watching her in wish land and cannot even get a real date and he’s an asshole and she’s cool.as fuck. I dont see what power he has if he don’t have no life and no real date with a woman who wants to be with him. ” Unidentified persons

31) “I never call my girlfriend’s friends and family but if I did it would be to find out what she wants for Christmas or her birthday not to have them get information so I can take her car away. ” – Unidentified Person

32) “My fear is that the behaviour this guy exhibits in that he comes up here and says this is his wife and there were no vows exchanged and I’m looking at these documents that appear to be a forgery and he’s telling us we cannot talk with her to confirm this is her signature, that we got one of those sick twisted types that is into necrophelia. He’s indicated she consented to having cameras on her and it looks to me like these documents he’s using to say that are forged and this is not her signature. She went and bought sheets and covered every inch of her room over at Lakeshore so.if she did consent she revoked when she did that but I don’t think she ever did or he wouldn’t say we can’t confirm this is her signature. So my fear is that he’s been running a fantasy through his head about Cyndi that he’s gonna kill her and have sex with her dead body. I think he’s done this before many times. He don’t do things living women would do so he kills them so he can do all the sick twisted weird shit living ladies will not do. It’s weirdo. He’s a weirdo and I’m not willing to put her life at risk like that. I’m not doing it here. She turns up missing everyone knows he did it. I mean she’s here in my.jurusdiction and I’m not gonna put her life at risk.so Perry can indulge in his necro deal. Are you cause I’m not. ” — Chief Lucky Miller

33) “I’m not gonna have people in my town inconvenienced so you can mess with this girl’s money. You need to get her some money and you keep your hands out of her wallet. If some guy grabbed a woman’s purse and started taking her money, you’d have men beat him up and get it back to her so.whats the difference in you taking her money from her work and that? I don’t see any difference. You guys get your hands out of her purse and quit taking her money. ” Chief Lucky Miller

34) “Looks to me like Charles Perry has difficulty managing his professional relationships with women. He seems not to be able to recognize proper boundaries. We hired an attorney to look.through all her civil cases and he just went in and lied. She is now to me much more credible because there is not one of these where she was even allowed in court to argue her case. He went in and did these backroom deals and got everything thrown out. Had he made mistake on her arrest or there was some sort of misunderstanding and these guys made it right, I could live with that but they proceeded to do her dirty again, and they have 20 plus attorneys between them and Cyndi Ortiz has not been to law school and they would not allow her in, on her own law suits to argue or question him or anything and that I cannot live with. I’m very cautious even with Matt. He’s been a great disappointment because we all know Charles is a little weird but I thought, well Charles is not just a little weird, he’s a lot weird and shady but I.thought Matt had more integrity than do something like this and they didn’t just do it to her on one. They did this to her three times. So my problem is we finally had someone in Lubbock that I trusted to find good candidates and run them and win in positions that we needed good conservative representation and Charles ran her off and we needed that girl here to what she does. He ran her out of town and now they got criminal charges building up somewhere and after looking through all this, I can sure see why. ” — Leader in Lubbock

35) “Cynthia told everyone in March 2020 that she knew Mike Nealey was drugged and not tested prior to treatment by first responders with Narcan which would obviously change results. She ranted and raved for a year that Perry would keep her from testifying. He did exactly that. If there was any doubt in our minds that he is guilty if murder in the first degree of Chief Miller, guilty of attempted murder of Mike Nealey and fraud upon a court before and Cynthia is telling the truth, there isn’t now. Not now. He did exactly what she said and there are too many of those occasions that have accumulated over the past decade. You can’t miss it. ” About 40 reporters in general all said the same thing.

36) “Don’t let Cyndi get any money from work, freelance, or Terry or anyone right now. We need to get her dancing again and get the club raided. ”

37) Break into her place and break that printer if her’s. That way she can’t type up anything and print it out to file in Court. ”

38) We hear the words “ostensibly, ostentatious, dubious on these recordings a lot and Matt Powell’s famous “Oh for Gods sake. You are kidding me” or “Oh for crying out loud, you are kidding me”

39) We also hear “It was not obtained legally that we know of. ” Responses recently “I’m not going to tell you again. You don’t know that and until you do, quit complaining. She left. She has done everything she can do to avoid conflict. You are provoking. You came up here and broke the law. You are the antagonizers. You stop and there won’t be anything else to record and get back to her. ”

40) “Oh Cyndi? That chick those weird guys from Lubbock are going at all the time? Yes I know who you are talking about.” Who doesn’t. You gotta be under a rock in Oklahoma not to know. Everyone knows. He might hide the weird in Lubbock but most, not all, people in Lubbock think the UN is going to invade and 7 deputies will fix that one so that doesn’t mean anything at all. This isn’t Lubbock. Perry has tried hard to force Cynthia out of Oklahoma because he thinks that’s going to resolve him getting caught but The McNamara email didn’t come from.anyone in Oklahoma. That came from his own backyard. He is disturbing people badly with this creepster gig and when they did what they did to Mike Nealey last week, however bad it was, it blew up in ways they can’t imagine. That really pissed more people off than he will know until it’s too damn late. We did say five years ago no amount of money will cover up his crime this time. It’s never been more uncovered as it is right now. He’s gonna have justice shoved down his throat until he gags on it the way he forces all of us to gag on his crime. He’s not normal. He’s sicko.

41) The tossed Mike’s cell and came up empty. They didn’t find a thing. ” Why would they?

42) “Where does she keep her car registration? Is it in the glove or where does she keep that? Does anyone know where she keeps her title? ” — Perry wanting all that in the car so he can take it

43) “We need to get her using cable and take a look at her Roku.” She had cable for years until a few months ago and whatever nutty thing Perry “imagines” her Roku that would be out if the norm for what all Rokus do, that he needs to look at it speaks to his big problem with delusion.

44) “If she stays in Tulsa….” “If she moves back to NM…” “She can’t go back to Vegas….” Here we go again with people on Perry’s payroll that she doesn’t know or like butting in where they were not asked or invited in. Cynthia Ortiz is the only person who makes plans for Cynthia Ortiz and she sure as shit does not tell people who have proven dangerous to her. It’s not your business. You are crossing a boundary that you don’t need to be crossing. It’s not your concern or place to make plans for someone who doesn’t even know you. She moved twice to get away from Charles Perry. He is the criminal. A he has to do is get out of her life. That’s the law. When a lady asks to be left alone, it is a crime to force and push and shove and bother and if he were in a bar, unwanted male attention gets you bounced the hell out. It’s a bar, not a church. This is no different. She didn’t ask you what you think. She asked you to get out of her life and comply with the law like everyone else does with no effort at all whatsoever. His crime is an Imposition and unwanted burden. Where she lives, is none of his business. He’s had a decade to act like a grown ass man, get over it and move on and go be normal. He’s making everyone else uncomfortable. He makes Cynthia wanna barf. Actually, internationally all stalking is barfed upon as a very low class, offensive, creepy, disturbing form of conduct. The UK in fact, not long ago, changed the status of stalking to “heinous crime” due to the emotional torture inflicted on victims and in doing so increased the severity of penalties. It’s not just us. Internationally delusional whackjobs who can’t go be normal and find a woman that wants them and instead force themselves on one who is icked out by them and stop bothering everyone are categorized as socially inept criminals. It’s not just us. No means no in every language every where. Cynthia moved twice, sued 3 times to beat Perry off of her with a legal bat and if you can’t get a grip in reality and move on by now you really do need the butterfly net. Stuck in wannabe land or on the weirdo train makes him very very repulsive and disgusting to her and everyone watching him rip up her life because he didn’t get his way. She doesn’t like him, PERIOD. Where she lives is none of his business. She has a protected address just so he doesn’t.

Click here to see most recent threats from Charles Perry to Cynthia and new Intel gathered as of May 12, 2021

Click here to see police recordings from May 15, 2021 incriminating to Charles Perry. They are calling these acts particularly heinous and malicious. He was caught pre-meditating, knew he was caught and did it anyways.

You know what our guys say when Perry won’t stop with the contact and harm after he keeps getting caught? “You gotta be shitting me with this. He’s still at it. ”

Click here to see more on Perry’s economic abuse with intent to force and coerce Cynthia to lie and be in something she wants nothing to do with and never will because he’s drama and cruel like this. Not her thing.

Click here to see more specific threats Perry made that he is carrying out. The more he does that, the more he’s told on and can’t yet put that together in his head.

Click here to hear Cynthias cease and desist and one of many.

On and on and on we could go for years recorded and recorded and recorded and we cannot wait until this is all used against Charles Lee Perry in a Court of law to convict. The more he bothers Cynthia and her friends and family the easier it is to get this stuff. He’s hated and repulsive. The more he contacts her, creeps and peeps, hacks, sits around doing nothing but watching her on RV like some delusional crazed fan of a movie star in wannabe wish land, causes harm loss and hardship the more people talk and turn against him. It disturbs and upsets and makes people uncomfortable and sick and even traumatized to see him do the horrible bazaarly abnormal things he does all day. Why would it not and Mike Nealey is included in that too. Perry riled up some shit doing to Mike Nealey what he did last week. He can live with his choices. Injury to one person pisses people off and they start talking but when they get away with that involves some outrage. Perry is a sexually dysfunctional sadist who gets off on weird offensive bazaar and harm. He enjoys it. That is his wife. He’s married to being creepy, being mentally fucked up, being strange and being criminal and a sadist and we know that because even when he’s caught he goes right back at it and he’s done this consistently everyday day all his life a d he’s been caught daily for a decade since he met Cynthia, whose daddy, granddaddy, great granddady, and great great granddady were Lawmen.  She’s been in and around elected officials, her granddad was one, and police all her life. She’s got connections with all the right folk. Perry has no such thing. She’s had that since she was born. First time in his criminal life he’s been caught like this, just since he met her. He’s not putting all this together in his head on the whole cause and effect thing. Shrink says he wouldn’t pass the test she gives young children on reasoning and logic. He’s an embarrassment.

All this information here was obtained by police from right up under Perry’s nose while he sat around being a lazy fat slob pervert watching tv all day. They got all this while he did that and the more problems he causes the more he intrudes the more we get and that is the cause and effect he cannot grasp like even a 5 year old. We are embarrassed by him. He shoves his weirdo problem down everyone’s throats until they gag on it so.hes about to get justice shoved down his until he gags on it and we will see how cute he thinks all this is then.

On Sam Cummings, he’d already been notified he was recorded in an illegal conversation with Charles Perry. The Motion to Vacate was just his shovel. He went at the digging as expected. That was only to see what he would do. He has consistently issued orders with no reason and no case law to support and when they are all arrested all these orders will be vacated so his was only an effort to see if he’d get it right this time or stay on the payroll. “Here is your shovel, Judge. We already told you that you were caught. You gonna prove that wrong by throwing the shovel down and walking off or are you gonna dig your hole deeper?” He went to digging. They all do and they always do.

You know what our guys said when Cynthia indeed was kept again out of Court with valuable pertinent information and Mike Nealey was found guilty of a crime as a result that we all know he didnt do? If we knew he was drugged before depos were taken you need to know we know he didn’t do it. “I cannot believe they did that to him. I mean I can’t believe it. We gotta fix this. How the fuck do these people sleep at night. I can’t believe they did that to him. Jesus! Makes me so mad!!!! These people are boiling up a pot of shit karma and they got it coming. If anyone has it coming they do. Boy that pisses me off. How could they do that to him? ” Made people more mad than they already were. You piss people off like that the result is they tell on you because they want you in jail and off all our backs. More than ever in Perry’s life. If he were any good at being a CPA he’d do a little math and take all the times he’s been told on since he met Cynthia and subtract all the times he was caught and told on before and see he’s not wanted. He’s not liked. He’s pissing everyone off. He’s upsetting people. He’s turned a whole lot against him. He’s disturbing people and most likely people he’s gonna wish to God he hadn’t pissed off. Cynthia being one. She comes from Lawmen. She is not on his side. He’s too low class. Perry clearly has delusional Erotomania which is when someone thinks the other is in love when all evidence days they really just don’t like you. She left. She moved again. She sued him 3 times to be rid of him. She asked 11 times for some sort of order prohibiting all contact. He’s imagining things that aren’t there. He’s embarrassing himself and a whole lot of other people and just not all there enough to realize it and move on. It’s pathetic.

Perry gets recorded and recorded and recorded trying to cause harm and then goes right back at it and wants to know who told and who in law enforcement is being told. He’s not entitled to that information and has never gotten even a hint and he keeps asking when we’ve all made it clear that’s not information he is going to have until Court and even then some of it he will never have. He’s slow. We have to repeat the same things over and over and over. He digs his hole deeper and deeper and deeper and can’t tell he is in way over his head. He vomits all over the place, eats it, gets told on, gets mad, then goes right back to eating his own vomit and it has been that way for now a decade. He’s stupid. He repeats the same thing every day, gets the same results and can’t figure out that if you want different results you can’t keep doing the same thing that gets you results you dont like. He’s stupid. Cynthia has worked with thousands of men and only has to say something one time so.for her to have to repeat herself only serves to piss her off and get on her nerves. Dealing with repeat is like fingernails on a chalkboard to her. There are many many conversations in Oklahoma about her intolerance for stupid. “You had better get what she’s saying her she will flat walk off and not waste her time giving you an explanation. So don’t play stupid with her and don’t insult her intelligence or she will shut you down and she’s done with you.” And that is true. She’s out thought Perry in her sleep for a decade and been a key player in being the first to catch his crimes. It’s really not been that hard. He’s not very smart. Doesn’t say much for Texas law enforcement that they all that time to.do what she has with her cop buddies help. They could have ended his crime spree before she ever moved to Texas and this one is big catch for law enforcement and her people are fully aware of that fact. He’s sick.twusted delusional mentally slow sadistic monster. No empathy for who he hurt just wants to know who told. That’s sick. That’s really really sick.

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Click here to see evidence of witness tampering and video of Cynthia showing fraud in Officer Nealeys trial.

We are gonna give a “How To Sherlock That Bitch” Lesson Here for the slow. See Lesson below

Even if there were no McNamara cops getting recordings, Sherlock 101 applies. Here’s how one does the impossible. 


Example One: Dave Roberson comes to Godiva’s after Cynthia returns home. Margo is over talking to him while customers around Cynthia complain that the waitress isn’t refilling their drinks because she’s over chatting with “that guy” too long. 
Margo comes over to Cynthia, not the customers and asks “Are the Feds involved?” 
Cynthia thinks to herself, “Hmmmm, not beneficial to me at all if they know the answer to that one way or the other. I’m not answering that question. Her response is: “My charges were not federal.” 
Margo replies, “Oh good okay.” She then runs back over to Dave. He jumps up all excited, starts pecking away on his phone, all smiles, runs outside thinking he got some valuable piece of intel. 


Example Two: 
Joshua Burson sets up a facebook page spoofing Lisa Nealey and starts asking all kinds of questions that Lisa wouldn’t give a crap about. He asks “Did Lucky go to Cynthia’s work? Did cops go in there?” He wants Cynthia to tell him what she and Lucky discussed. He already knew he went into her work and talked with her because Lucky told him. He just wasn’t sure what all they talked about. He thought that if he pretended to be Lisa Nealey, Cynthia would spill it. Keep in mind they’ve called all over asking how she knows how to out sting op all of them and has, not once, not twice, not for a week, not for a month but for nearly a decade every time they went in trying to get information out of her. They have not even a hint of who their leaks are or who they are leaking to. Six years they’ve been trying to get something and they got nothing because these people are pros. Perry is slow so he’s not hard to outthink. If you have no skill set above that of a chimpanzee, you aren’t hard to outthink. If you have no idea that you should be deeply embarrassed by the bazaarly abnormal conduct you indulge in, you aren’t hard to outthink even for a person of average intellect. Her response “You can talk to police on the phone.” 


Example Three: 
1) Man has been found incoherent and unable to speak or move. 2) Man has no memory of a catastrophic event leading to the death of another individual in the room he is in, in fact, he’s found on top of the deceased and can’t remember what happened. 3) Man is seen in interview on the news having not a mark on him, pointing out to police he’s talking to that he does not appear to have been in a fight. 4) Officer tell him “You don’t appear to know what happened.” and walk out of the room
One then thinks to themselves, Hmmmm….what would cause such a thing? Drugs. Alcohol not really so much as drugs. The people with motive to kill him have done this before in fact they did it to me. Probably man was drugged but we can double check in other ways to confirm that hypothesis. 
And one would then question the police who just said “You don’t appear to know what happened.” then leaving the room being the person they are talking to can’t offer any information because they were found incoherent, mumbling, unable to walk or talk and yet, those same police didn’t put it together in their heads that maybe he wasn’t in a fight and couldn’t have killed anyone at all. Maybe he was a target.

What Escambia should have done is as follows

1) Man is found knocked out, incoherent, mumbling, unable to walk or talk.

2) Man is not treated for being in that condition from being hit but with Narcan for Opioid Overdose

3)Man has no memory of events.

4) Man has pointed out his injuries are inconsistent with the other occupant in the room who appears to have been beat to death.

5) Man is a cop and may have a case back home that the offender would have an interest in his demise.

6) Man has no opioids in his personal possessions.

7) No weapon is in the room that matches the deceased individuals injuries.

8) Knocked out man could not if he wanted to done this and a weapon didn’t get up and walk out on its own.

9) Another man was in here and tried to kill both these guys. Since this one was knocked out what is the most likely hypothesis is the deceased began to notice his buddy acting like he was drugged. He’s also a cop. He knows his buddy well. He’s likely to have questioned occupant 3. Occupant 3 realizes he’s caught and begins to beat the ever living shit out of him and they do causing his death.

10) Drugged man is likely laying on the bed, grabbed and thrown on top and the deceased. Bad man leaves undetected because there were no cameras anywhere but the lobby.

Watch Las Vegas CSI because even those actors can get there faster than Escambia SO did. It’s really not that hard.

Mike’s attorney’s explanation of events that occurred that night are even more far fetched. He asserted “The Magic Drunk Butt” Theory which is equal to Seinfeld’s Magic Floogie Theory. Mike Nealey being incoherent, unable to walk or talk or move fell on top of Lucky Miller and with his magic butt caused Chief Miller’s injury of a bruised swollen eye, strangulation, blunt force trauma to the skull, and internal decapitation. He forgoes the blatant Brady Violation of his client not being tested for drugs with a full tox panel prior to being treated with Narcan and asserts he’s got a Magic butt that can cause all those fatal injuries while he’s passed out just by landing on him.

Click link to see Seinfeld’s Magic Floogie and Compare To The Insanity of Mitchell’s bazaar defense

They didn’t get there in their heads which then makes us go, “Not batman and shouldn’t be cops if they can’t figure that out like we did. Wasn’t hard.” and in fact there then should have been more questions like, “What was he drugged with that made him be in that condition? He needs a blood test and a blood test prior to the administration of treatment which would then change the results of a blood test because we need to know what he was given, how much he was given and who gave it to him. If there is nothing in his personal belongings, probably he didn’t take it himself. So who, why, when and where did someone give that to him that caused those results? Nobody did any of that research or Sherlocking. Here is a little tip. You can’t have the training Cynthia has. You can at least get better than where you are watching Las Vegas CSI. Even the actors on that show know more than Escambia on how you Sherlock a murder. 

We think Mike was drugged as the offender hoped to get him to tell who the McNamara cops are. Lucky started noticing something was wrong. He begins to question the offender and they fight and Lucky us killed while Mike sleeps through the whole thing. Dead men dont talk but neither do guys overdosed and knocked out cold. You know how we know this? They were asking if Lucky and Mike were a leak. They tried that on Cynthia. “Get her drink and talking and find out who these guys are ” she doesn’t drink much and for sure when she knows what they are up to sit they didn’t get a thing out of any of them. That doesn’t mean there wasn’t intent also to kill Mike to and the offender most likely left the room thinking both were dead. But he wanted Mike to spill it before he died and when he passed out, Lucky being a cop and knowing Mike notice something was wrong. This is hypothesis but the evidence supports it for sure more than anything Perry said or those guys in Pensacola. We will see if that new truck or pool they bought with Perry’s payoff was worth it when this is over.

We out copped Burson and Escambia and couldn’t be more proud. Perry gets off hurting people. We got off on out Sherlockingeveryone else and catching bad guys nobody else has the balls to. That’s our thing. We are good at it.

Click here to see chapter and versed what we believe happened that night in Pensacola to Chief Miller and Officer Mike Nealey

Click here to see unexplained discrepancies on Chief Miller’s murder.

Any officer of the Court who wilfully and maliciously conceals material facts that were likely to change the outcome of the decision making body from whom it was concealed is guilty of fraud upon a court. Under many a courts decisions it is consistent with perjury. They knew the fact, they knew the fact was likely to change the outcome, they knew it was pertinent and they concealed the fact intentionally. Mike Nealey not having a blood test to see what drug warranted Narcan and how much he was given is concealment of a Brady Violation. Failure to collect and preserve all evidence favorable to the accused. If he’s unconscious, he’s not able to kill anyone at all. That was withheld and concealed from Mike Nealeys jury. His attorney foregoes this very key fact being put to the jury and instead asserts the magic butt theory. We have a headache in our eye and blood squirting out our ears from the aneurysm that gave us. What in THE hell did he get in exchange for his cooperation on that? How much will his bank account show Perry pays him to do that?

Click here to see Perry’s “Bus Pass” Threats and escalations. He’s gotten so much worse over the past weeks it’s making the information on his threats come in so much it’s hard to keep up with it all.

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#noconsent

#againstmywill

#rejectedfailureforadecade

#getalife

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Click here to hear evidence Perry told everyone in Oklahoma they were married even though she had no idea and did not consent to even a conversation much less that kind of weirdo.

If there is a forged marriage license Cynthia has never seen it much less signed and she if it’s filed she wants a divorce and half of everything Perry owns.

Click here to hear Shrink describe her false arrest as a stalking escalation intended to cause harm. Perry isn’t relevant. He causes drama a d loss to try to make himself relevant.

Click here to see documents referred to Herein posted here on Facebook

Click here to see Nealey case detailed out long ago being about Charles Perry’s obsession with taking Cynthia’s car

Click here to see Escambia SO’s stupid that gives others in law enforcement heartburn

Click here to see police recordings as of April 10 2021 Perry still going at her wallet, car and looking for another smear campaign. Click here to see info on Cynthia’s convo with Chief Miller and Perry’s attempt to bribe and coerce her to lie and back off. Evidence of more witness tampering.

Click here to see Perry’s threats to Cynthia documented on April 26, 2021

Click here to see our successes in Cynthias effort to be rid of Perry and to be the first to uncover his secret alleged criminal activity.

Perry continues to make unwanted contact with Cynthia, harass and threaten and pester and bother her and take her money. Police tell us he will be charged for harassing their witness and grand larceny with intent to coerce. He has no idea who his leaks are or who in law enforcement they leak to. He asks constantly. He has no control over that. The more he causes problems and drama and loss the easier it is to get information to establish malicious premeditated crime and he wants to know who told. That’s private and confidential information and those people are protected from a mad man who hurts people. The fact that his crime is more uncovered than ever before in his life is a huge victory and just one of many to come. That’s not been done before. Cynthia did say 5 years ago “Your crime won’t be covered up this time. Won’t matter how much money you pay for a cover up. It won’t be covered up this time. ” Now he harasses her wanting to know who told. That’s a win right there in and of itself and one we are all very proud of. He’s never been able to control it but what she said has indeed happened and every time he asks about it that’s evidence that she knew what she was talking about and he just didn’t understand what he’s up against. He still doesn’t. If he did, he’d leave her alone and comply with the law.

May 23, 2021 Podcast of Charles Perry’s continued harassment and alleged criminal activity directed at Cynthia

Speculation grows regarding Perry’s involvement in Chief Miller’s murder, his subornation of perjury in Mike Nealey’s trial, his diminished mental status, delusion and corruption.

And updates on even more threats from Charles Perry to Cynthia Ortiz as of June 2, 2021 here

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1118843491945527&id=100014596601592

Perry as of June 3, 2021 still bothering Cynthia and recorded discussing how much gas she has and how much money she has none of which is his business but is very creepy stalker of him. He’s pissing cops off like a MF

Stalker Perry is recorded more than once “Make her leave Oklahoma!” Click this link for more

Click here to See info on Perry’s discussions about getting Cynthia’s ringtone and an individual reviewing problems with his story.

Click here to see Perry’s continued butting in to her financial matters, stalking, harassment, attempted coercion, intentional causing stress and duress, and more information on the fraud Perry caused on Officer Mike Nealey’s murder trial. The more he does this the more he’s told on. He whines and complains about being a rejected failure and not wanted and told on but does the same thing every day that provokes that. He’s also demanded that Cynthia go back to dancing. She quit in November of last year. He is pressuring her to dance the same way he pressured Mike Nealey to go to Florida. He said “Trust me” sure she will get right on that.

Just after Perry is told again then when he bothers Cynthia, invades her privacy without her consent, takes her money or causes loss, it’s easier to get all this stuff without his. Click here to see the new info police get Cynthia today June 14, 2021

Mr. Perry is failing to understand that nobody cares what he thinks, wants or needs. He’s not asked. He’s asked to leave everyone alone. Being he seems not to give a crap about what people think about disliking his inability to respect boundaries and the law, no one cares what he thinks. He never shuts up despite never being asked. He’s asked to stop bothering everyone. He’s asked to go away and get busy in his town with his own family. He’s asked to stop all contact in all forms with Cynthia not what he thinks, wants or needs.

Cynthias and Nealeys cases detailed item by item fact by fact here

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So Many Crimes And So Much To Cover Up

Over the past 10 years there have been more times than we can count that BEFORE not after, Cynthia was told by the officers who gave her information intended to protect her, warn her, and to establish pre-meditation on the part of Charles Perry and his goons or Weirdo Club, whatever you want to call the guys he’s got on his payroll, to commit a crime against her. There is a recording of him or someone on his payroll planning harm to her. She emails her attorneys or someone she knows about it. At this point there is only a conversation. The plan hasn’t been executed yet. When it is, then it is a crime and it is malicious and intended and the penalties for premeditated crime both in criminal court and civil are much higher than in negligence. When Perry dies exactly what Cynthia says he was recorded planning, he cannot then deny that it was him. He planned it, he executed the crime, he caused an injury and it hurt people. There is tangible loss and in most cases, the kind you don’t get over ever.


These officers have a witness that stated “As long as I’ve known Charles Perry he watches women in their home. He trolls them. He sits and watches their schedule. He then has his guy put hidden cameras in their house. He watches for workplace vulnerabilities. He gets them fired. He watches where they go to make sure they can’t get a new job. They go apply at X place he will call X place to make sure they never get hired. They lose the house. The kids are all upset. She is hysterical. Then because she has no job he has the ex take the kids away. Is that what he did to this Cynthia person?” “Yep. He had her parents take her older son and tried with the little one but we would not allow that. He didn’t get to the little one. ” He enjoys watching women get hysterical so he can go rub one out. He’s a sex pervert. I’m glad someone is finally putting a stop to it. I’m sick of sleeping with one eye open. “


This has gone in for decades. Perry sells watch time on the dark web and that includes women who have kids in the home and that is child porn. That is the reason this is a need to know and it is big, it is sex trafficking and they have power and money under threat by these officer putting a stop to it.


Perry has asked a whole lot if folks in effort to determine exactly what Cynthia a role is whether she was sent to Lubbock by these guys to get his ass locked up or she called them in Dallas and brought them in. “Who moves from Vegas to Lubbock unless you have to?” One of his guys said, “It was her job. They were investigating him. They knew her from somewhere, they bring her because she’s got the mental and emotional capacity to take a beating and not let it get to her and for a prolonged investigation. She’s got the law enforcement background and the political background and there was a time in her life no one really knows what she was up to. Right after she breaks up with Saeed there are a few years or some time there before she gets pregnant with Triston we don’t really know what she was up to. Was she in training at that point? Who trained her? No one knows really what she was doing.” And another of his guys “We have been told there only 5 people in the country that can do what she does, that he knows. He said as far as he knows he only knows 5 in this country that can do what Cynthia does and he wanted to know who taught her how to do that and not only that but to handle this mentally she had to have been trained for that to. For her to be put through what Charles has put her through for this long and not have a mental breakdowns she had to have had specialized training to stay steady like she does for this long. We know she can out sting op any one we send. She will fuck with you and you may not even realize that’s what she’s doing. Who taught her how to do that?”  We don’t ever confirm or deny what someone else says, but we will say they don’t know which one occurred, that or did she call people in law enforcement she knew when she was in Dallas and Perry escalated his stalking?  Either way, more than ever in his life, he’s caught in crime he hid all his life. That began when he met Cynthia Ortiz.


So based on that, and keep in mind Charles Perry prior to 2010 was unknown and has no record to point to politically, nobody knows what he was up to in those years prior to running for state assembly. He has money but cannot explain having much more than a small town accountant would have. He’s getting that money sex trafficking. He’s alone much of the time. He’s not seen out with his wife and family much. He’s not got an alibi. He’s traveling and he’s traveling alone which means he’s got all kinds of opportunity to do all kinds of criminal acts to all kinds of people. What they wanted was to be better able to get in front Perry to ask him some questions. You go in pretending to be a potential accounting client, you get one shot. He may figure out what you are up to if you start asking about his travels. In that setting that might raise a flag or two. You get the guy running for office it’s a different ball game. You interact with all kinds of people all the time. You get to where you can’t remember who you met and where it what you said or what they said. Perfect. That’s perfect. His life is under public scrutiny. He’s running for office and asking tax payer a to hire him so as his bosses he is fully aware he’s accountable to them for every move he makes. Any cop can approach him at an event and ask questions about where he’s been, who he was with, how long he was in town in a way that Perry wouldn’t have a clue he’s talking to a cop and just revealed he was in town during the time in question and he has no alibi.


When he does exactly what we say he was just recorded talking about doing, he proves us out. We said he was trying to arrange not one but two false arrests of Cynthia to retaliate and intimidate. We said he was going at her car. We said he’s trying to get her kicked out if her home. We said he calls her clients or would be clients and runs them off hoping she will go broke, take his bribe and lie for him. We said he was trying to force her back to dancing so he could get to her easier. We said he wants to kill her and do it in such a way that makes it difficult to even prove it was murder much less that he did it and this would not be his first rodeo. We have said these things and said them and said them for years and some he did do, some he tried and failed and some he nixed because he got caught.


Those are detailed chapter and versed here on this blog going back.many years:


https://justice4cyn.com/


Every time Perry has a leak, that means he’s pissed people off with his cruelty and he’s being stopped. He won’t get that. He’s stupid. But that’s what’s happening. He thinks being a peeping tom makes him Cynthia boyfriend. If he’s not loved back there is nothing there. She moved twice and sued him 3 times. She rejected his offer if $5000 for a night of sex. There is no possibility if a date with her ever. She left. It’s been nearly a decade. Rape isn’t live it is assault and it is a crime and Voyeurism is a form of rape. You watch a woman in the privacy of her home and you know that is a crime to do that, that is assault not love and it’s sick and not only that to sell her, now you are a disgusting little pimp. Go get your fucking purple robe and bling and parade your sick sorry ass around like a pimp because your Bible ain’t big enough to cover up what you did.  The link to that recording is at the bottom of this page.


All of this is motive for murder. You got guys putting a stop to this. That’s a threat to the money and power this crime brings with it.


Now in addressing Officer Nealey’s case. Officer Nealey is in the interview with police that aired all over the news and we all saw it, link below, you can clearly see an IV in his right hand. First responders testify they don’t put an IV in an injured hand. He’s got not a mark on him. He has an IV in his right hand, so is he right handed or left handed? We know from testimony that at 7PM, Officer Nealey calls down to the front desk looking for the remote. He’s happy and in a good mood, and opens the door wide enough for hotel staff to see Chief Miller resting on the bed furthest from the door by the window. At 8pm, staff is called back to the room over a noise complaint. Chief Miller opens the door but not wide enough for hotel staff to see any other occupant in that room but Chief Miller. He had no motive or reason to conceal Officer Nealey, the other registered guest in the room. Who else was in that room that wanted to be concealed? There are no cameras in that hotel, but for the lobby. There are other exits and entrances. Was there another individual behind him with a gun to his head demanding he conceal them? Was Officer Nealey at this point already knocked out? We don’t know. We do know he wasn’t seen and did not make a peep.  All we know is that at 8PM, Officer Nealey is not visualized and nobody knows the status at this point of his condition. All we know is at this point, he didn’t make a peep, and wasn’t seen or heard so we don’t know that he wasn’t already knocked out cold. We don’t know if someone was behind Chief Miller threatening him, with a gun to the back of his head, if he concealed their presence in the room at this point. Hotel staff probably would have heard Officer Nealey say something. Chief Miller, the staffer said in testimony, said he was trying to calm his buddy down. You don’t hear “the buddy” argue with that, correct that, or say anything at all. He didn’t say, “I’m fine. I don’t need to be calmed down.” There was no sound at all. Just Chief Miller stating he was sorry for the noise and was trying to calm his buddy down and the Chief concealed the occupants including the other registered guest, Officer Nealey.


An hour later, at about 9pm, hotel guest do not call back down to the front desk. They actually down and state they are wanting to repack all their suitcases, haul them to another room and make a room change. The noise is that bad that they are willing to go through all that trouble to get away from it. Staff goes back up to the room and finds Chief Miller’s eye swollen and bruised, extensive damage over his head neck and face, and he is deceased. Officer Nealey is found thrown on top of him, but every witnesses version of his position is different. What is consistent is that he was knocked out cold, in respiratory distress, and incoherent. He cannot talk. He cannot breath. He cannot move. He’s out cold. First responders do not treat him for being knocked out with a hit to the head, neck or face. He has no injuries as Chief Miller has. There is a loud commotion so much so the front desk is called twice. A commotion indicates a fight in that both parties were fighting and Chief Miller hit back. He didn’t just stand there and let himself get beat to death. He hit back. So where are those injuries on Officer Nealey, were he the guy Chief Miller hit back? How do you beat someone at all much less to death when you are knocked out cold? The first responders treat Officer Nealey with Narcan, not for being hit, Narcan is to counteract the effects of opioid overdose. How did opioid get inside Officer Nealey’s body? Who put it there? How much was he given? No testing was done prior to the administration of Narcan. Like Cynthia who Mr. Roberson admitted to having arsenic given to her, both she and Officer Nealey are not given blood tests for forensic pathologists to inspect to determine what exactly they were given. Just because Mr. Roberson admitted to arsenic in a text, mind you, was it really arsenic or something else? We will never know and same for Officer Nealey. Charles Perry and Dave Roberson are linked to both apparent attempted murders. Both have very incriminating information and evidence against Perry and Roberson. That’s motive to murder both.


Officer Nealey is then taking to the hospital and then to an interview room by Escambia SO. In his interview here:

https://www.newson6.com/story/5e370dc673ed4c0f33ed9b82/video-reveals-new-details-about-murder-of-mannford-police-chief-lucky-miller


He is told there its homicide he’s talking to. He doesn’t say, “I’ve been beat badly, in fact so badly, I was knocked out cold and have no memory of what occurred. Who did this to us? Where is Lucky? Is he okay? He acts like he thinks he drank a little much and Lucky is probably outside waiting for him. He says, “Who is dead? Lucky is dead? I can’t believe you. Look at my hands. Doesn’t look to me like I was in a fight. I don’t believe what you are telling me.” Were he in a fight, he’d have bruises. He’d have injuries that were painful. He makes no indication that he is in pain, has any injuries, and in fact points out that he doesn’t. You cannot be in a deadly beat down and not have a mark on you. You’ll have something somewhere on your body. He had nothing. He wasn’t in that fight. He was already knocked out cold from opioid overdose and in fact the offender may have thought Officer Nealey was already dead. Either that or they fled the room after killing Chief Miller, because the guest called complaining about the noise and just didn’t get to finish Officer Nealey off.


What Escambia SO was not aware of is just 6 days before, Officer Nealey took a police report on Cynthia Ortiz’s vehicle vandalism which named no suspect at all. She said, “Nobody saw who did this, but Laura Collins showed me that room over there was covered top to bottom with this same powder. I took pictures of it so whoever was in that room needs an interview and I never saw the guy so he has no motive to get in my car. It is likely related to a civil law suit that is ongoing currently against Charles Perry, David Roberson, Matthew Powell, Joe Chadwick, and Joshua Burson. Its a stalker deal and I just don’t know anyone else who would do something like this. I can’t know for sure they did this, but that’s one place to look. This is one of many incidents I’ve had happen with my car and I’ve received threats to damage or destroy it for months now. ” She’d already dropped off paperwork and court documents on their attempts to poison her and the false arrest stunt they pulled to destroy what she was given, arsenic or whatever, to try to kill her. Mannford PD already had those documents. They knew the background before they came to look at her car. They also knew Perry had people pulling up taking pictures of her and had received multiple complaints from her neighbors. That had been ongoing for months prior to Officer Nealey sitting in that interview room, not a mark on him, being told his boss and best friend was now deceased. Escambia SO had no idea that all had happened months before and a complaint filed less than a week before the murder.


Now, you’d think if Perry and Powell and those guys were innocent of these charges, when Cynthia was poisoned and threatened even via text, he’d hold a press conference and say, “I”m not doing this to her. I’m sorry someone is and not only that, but they are using my name to do it and she helped me get elected so I owe her a solid. I’m asking for a complete and thorough investigation to find out who is doing this to her and using my name to do it. She’s got these texts that would concern anyone and she rightly went to police for help, its just that I wasn’t a part of it. If he weren’t poisoning her, and he wanted to accuse her of just making crap up, he’d then demand a blood test so he could take it to the public and say, “We had her tested. Nothing showed up. She lied. I told you so.” Instead he made sure she wasn’t tested ever. He destroyed that evidence and he did it knowingly. He claims she made crap up over a political beef and yet there are no rants or tweets or emails or texts about his politics from her or by her anywhere at all in a very long period of ten years from a woman who is as vocal as they get. She grew up in politics. She knows it takes thousands of people being vocal to make a change in a law. You don’t do that by saying nothing political if there is a political issue of frustration. Her frustration in all communications is over Perry’s stalker activity which you don’t need to do to pass a  law in Texas.


Cynthia worked Federal government reform, not state. She did one issue in New Mexico and Perry is not in the New Mexico legislature. He’s in Texas. The way this works is if you want change, you must talk about the issue and give reasons why there should be a change. One guy can’t do a thing and you’d call everyone in the state legislature, solicit them as a sponsor or supporter, the more sponsors the better, and it takes thousands of people, thousands of phone calls, and a lot of publicity to gain public support to pass a law. There is nothing like that regarding anything Charles Perry did legislatively. He was the new guy. If she wanted changes, she goes to people she’d been working with for three years in Texas before Perry crawled out from weirdo land to become a legislator. She’s not going to waste her time going to the new guy but out of courtesy to help him, not get his help. As the new guy, she’d be instrumental in introducing him to her contacts already established years before, not the other way around. She may bring something to him as a means to introduce him and to bring him into her circle of influence to help him, but she’d been at this all her life. She didn’t need his help. He needed her’s. There was no political beef at all and he flat out lied in court more than once.  There is no evidence at all of there being any political disagreement and yet Perry under oath made that claim in court and Matt Powell provided the assist so that he could as did Joshua Burson. If they lie about that, in court, under oath, what else are they lying about?


Now all of this we know, and its been documented and documented and documented and documented for years, if we know all that and its been proven out and proven out and proven out, then we can say pretty certainly, we know Officer Nealey did not kill Chief Miller, they did. They implicate themselves every chance they get and it is unbelievable.


One thing you’d expect to hear from someone who is innocent would be Perry going out to ask for a full investigation as to who harmed Cynthia and using his name to do it, were it not him. Why would he try to ruin Cynthia, starve Cynthia, coerce a lie, force her to leave Oklahoma and on and on and on instead of asking for a thorough investigation and in fact he intentionally has impeded two now. Why not do the same for Officer Nealey? Why not say, “We need to take a second look because again I’m being accused of something I had no part of, and I want to be cleared. Investigate me inside outside backwards and forwards and lets help this police officer get his name cleared too because I’m not seeing that he could have done this and we need to find out who did because the real killer will kill again if we don’t get the right guy. Someone else will be hurt if you don’t get the actual killer.” Instead of having Cynthia tested, for example and Perry and Powell staying for media, “She’s got some texts that concern even me as they would anyone so let’s have her tested. Let’s see if she was in fact poisoned and see what she was poisoned with and who gave it to her.” Then if nothing is in her blood they might then be able to say “She was lying and we told you so.” Instead they make sure there was no blood test. Mike Nealey also is treated with Narcan and not tested prior to the administration of Narcan.

Perry and Powell are not saying “let’s dig and find out exactly what occurred.” Instead, Perry is lying in Court and threatening and harassing Cynthia, a witness for Officer Nealey’s defense. He’s telling her he wants to know who told on him. He’s telling her he will give her “the yellow brick road” a new home, a new car, an expense account IF SHE LIES. If not, he’ll starve her and make her destitute until she comes to her senses. He’s not paying attention to all the recordings in that he has no idea who got them, who in law enforcement has them, what are they going to do with them, and continues to just make threat after threat after threat because we all know its logical to make one crime into five crimes in covering up the one. How stupid are these people???? Cynthia wants no contact with Charles Perry ever. He contacts her, daily against her will, and that pisses her off and those cops and they go at him harder and get more incriminating evidence against him than ever. He’s never had his crimes this exposed. He clearly doesn’t mind or he’d get off Cynthia. He doesn’t. He goes at her again the next day and the next day until this deal has piled up so high, he won’t get up from this one. He wants to know who told. He wants to know who told on him. That’s his position. His position is not that he stops violating the law, but he wants to know who told, and violates the law even more. Each day its a little more today than he did yesterday. The drama queen has no logic. None. He gets caught and told on because he asked for it. The acts aren’t of a person innocent but of someone in need of a cover up and a cover up in and of itself is evidence of the crime in which it attempts to cover up and not only that it shows consciousness of guilt. You don’t tamper with a witness who doesn’t know anything or isn’t correct on fact or isn’t telling the truth. If the witness is lying, you don’t need to buy a lie. You only offer to buy a lie if you need a lie because that individual is telling the truth so what is this with his “yellow brick road” deal and his threats to make her destitute until she “comes to her senses”? That is evidence of guilt.

Click here to hear Perry’s proxy tell Cynthia he thinks she and Perry have a romance then solicit prostitution on Perry’s behalf which you don’t need to do if there is really a romance.

Click here to hear Cynthia’s Court Ordered Therapist state her belief Perry causes problems to get attention. He’s not relevant. He causes harm and drama to make himself relevant.

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Charles Perry was recorded last night stating “We got to get her, but that’s not going to happen in Oklahoma. We have to force her back to Texas. ” Which he would not do or need to.do were she not a key witness in Officer Nealeys trial a d will be in criminal charges against him. He is coercing and tampering because he needs a lie. One crime becomes five when you try to cover everything up. He has harassed her, threatened her, invaded her privacy, harrassed and threatened her friends and family to try to make them pressure her to lie, he can’t keep his grubby hands out of her wallet and out of her money and income with intent to force her to lie. He thinks that peeping is a romance. In order for there to be a relationship, both parties have to want to be in it. She’s moved twice to get away from him. She sued three times and eleven asked a Judge to prohibit all his contact. Him buying a Judge to deny her requests does not change her will or her intent that he never contact her. It just is one more crime. She has made her disgust for Perry very clear so he’s imposing his delusion on others against their will, not just Cynthia but everyone around her. He’s icking his slime all over other people and then can’t figure out why people tell on him. He’s being stopped every time he’s told on. That is what is happening. He’s just too stupid to figure that out. He thinks Voyeurism is a romance when what it is is a crime. As to forcing her back to Texas so he can “get her” it’s one of many threats we’ve addressed already many times for a long time. She won’t lie. He’s not sure what to do with that. She won’t lie. He’s trying to make her against her will and she won’t do it so at this point it’s duly noted for the record that he’s attempting to coerce. Voyeurism is a crime not a romance. It’s sex deviancy. It’s a major turn off. If he carries out these threats to cover all that up, we told you so. Otherwise use allegedly where it applies. Perry also asked Cynthia what her problem is and tells her they have things to work out. These statements speak to his delusion. She doesn’t like him. She asked him to stay away from her. She’s gone to great lengths to get away from him and when that didn’t work she has beat him off her with a legal stick. The law says when a woman asks not to be contacted them you stop or you go to jail. He’s not smart enough to get a simple law like that? She doesn’t like him. There is nothing to work out. He is to cease and desist all contact with her. That’s the law and it’s an easy one to understand and follow. This was posted early this morning on facebook but Perry hacked her and deleted it. It’s being reposted here a d again on facebook. He’s threatening to “get her” which he wouldn’t need to do were she not telling the truth on everything including who killed Chief Miller. It was not Officer Mike Nealey. It was Perry and his creepy corporation. They had motive and the fact that they did what they did infers guilt in the car vandalism and that implicates them in perjury because they testified under oath that they were not making substantial harmful contact with Cynthia in Oklahoma. This is witness tampering and coercion. Her testimony is now on five different Court dockets. Trying to intimate or pressure her to lie is victim and witness tampering and cover up of a crime is just more crime. Cynthia doesn’t like Charles Perry period. There is no romance period. His attempts to force himself on her against her will makes her feel raped and is crime period. He’s told on everytime he breaks the law or plans to break the law because he’s being stopped period. Perry says he wants Cynthia bit Buddy you ain’t getting it. She doesn’t want you. And so said every creepy stalker everywhere. He imposes on everyone else. He’s a unwanted burden to everyone else. It’s a crime a d a sick one, not even a cool Oceans 11 type crime but one Dr Wecht says in Epstein’s documentary repulses even other guys in prison so how much more would his creeping around repulse Cynthia and anyone else with any class or dignity at all. He’s a deep disgust. He’s got leaks and the more he creeps around the more he’s told on. He’s not getting it. Something is wrong with him. For a guy who has had people out think him for a decade and be the ones to catch him in crime more than ever in his life to believe he should add input to anything they think or do at all is absurd but Perry does it everyday. Talk about eye rolling and face palms. That will do it. If it’s not that at times it’s falling on the floor laughing at how stupid what he says is to people who have out thought him for a decade. He actually thinks they care what he thinks. It doesn’t get any more absurd than that. We get embarrassed for him. It’s that bad. “Is that the chick those weird guys from Lubbock are always after?” Is said of Perry, Powell and Burson more often than they know.

Delusional Erotomania is disease that causes one person to believe another is in love with them.whem there is clear evidence to the contrary such as that person moving twice and suing three times and asking eleven times for a Judge to Order no contact

Click here to see evidence of Perry’s delusional erotomania

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Click here to see info in a whole bunch of threats Perry was caught planning. He’s bothering other people with his mental disease. He was told on again.

Click here to see Perry’s threats of second false arrest go back to 2017. He gets off on making women get hysterical and bothering people witnesses tell us. He never stops bothering Cynthia. He disgusts her. He cannot stop. Everytime he’s told on he is being stopped. He’s just not smart enough to get that.

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Charles Perry Caught again Tampering With The Witness and Victim Of His Crimes

More on Charles Perrys effort to force Cynthia Ortiz against her will to lie for him. She’s not going to and that ship sailed long ago as this person points out.

Another police recording:
“She’s got out there over and over again that he wanted to take her car or damage it. He wanted to arrange another false arrest. He wanted to kill her or kidnap her and that goes back before her first arrest and she’s got out there that he’s calling her friends and family, won’t let them talk to her without his permission and he has to tell them what they can and can’t say. He’s got them giving him information about her car and where she lives. He’s threatened them too. He’s calling people she works with so she can’t make money then he sends his guy to loan her money or bribe her or whatever you want to call it and then with holds it when she filed that Motion to Intervene for Mike. She wouldn’t do what they wanted so he pulls his guy back and make sure nobody does business with her. He was trying to get her kicked out of her home. He was trying to force her out of Oklahoma. He was trying to make her desolate and desperate so she’d live in his house and drive his car and everyone knows that would last about a week or two while he tortured her and got his thrills from that then he’d kill her himself. He’d make her lie then he’d kill her himself and there was some speculation he might be a necro. So we got all that stuff out, three law suits, not one trial on merit, we got fraud and we got him really going into her wallet every single time she goes for an appeal. We got all that documented going way back and all those dates and times that are before where someone tells on him and it gets to those cops and they tell her and its on McNamara email after another after another then you got Lucky Miller’s murder and Mike Nealey with not a mark on him and he’s treated not for being beat up and knocked out but for drug over dose which she knew about that too before depositions were taken. Charles is such a nut he and Dave Roberson both keep thinking they get caught, they wait until the dust settles and go at it again and what that does is she finds out every single time then she’s got more evidence to show intent and premeditation. If and when they do what she says they were supposedly recorded doing then there is your crime. That is your crime because its not a crime just talking about it. Talking about it is premediation. Doing it makes it premeditated crime. She’s being coerced. She’s being threatened. She’s being harrassed. Then the other thing is that when she came back they agreed with her anyways, to not contact her again ever. He comes up here tells everyone he’s gotten engaged. He’s going to get her knock her out and get her pregnant and be Dennis’ step dad and at that point, my guys were saying, “This guy is one of those freaks that has women locked in a basement somewhere. He’s a werido deluxe. She is not going to get pregnant and he’s married coming up here telling people he’s gonna be Dennis’ step dad? Who the hell does that? She wouldn’t even talk to him much less get engaged. She won’t give him the time of day. This guy is psychopath and Matt Powell is too. They all are. This is weirdo crap.” I got guys very uncomfortable just like she says. I got guys that get the creeps around these people too and they are men. So this deal is jacked up and everyone knows it and everytime they do what she says they were recorded doing they give her a little more credibility and a little more and a little more and you got one big mess here. He should have done what they all agreed to do and leave her alone. I don’t know how you clean all that up now because she’s got this going back years. She’s got them asking about where she keeps her title, her car registration and all that her tags and all that so what is it they think they are going to do? They take her car, well she’s been saying. They get her kicked out, well she’s been saying. They do this second false arrest or kidnap her or kill her or force her to lie making her destitute and broke, well she’s been saying. So what do they think they are going to prove? They don’t even know. They don’t even know. They think wait until the dust settles and it settles, they start talking about it again, they get recorded or whatever and it goes to those cops, to Cynthia and its to her attorneys then its out everywhere. We don’t know who all tells or how all that works but she gets more credibility every time they screw with her. Waiting until the dust settles and trying again, well what good does that do. She can still say ‘Well, but we told you so.'” Then you got Mike Nealey over there in jail now for well over a year and everyone can see aint no way he committed that murder. You got people dying and people pissed off and what next? Know what I’m saying? What next? The guy is pyschopath and psychopaths can’t think right so everything is all jacked up. I mean I’ve not seen anything in my life be this jacked up. She said that. You listen to a guy who is delusional and can’t tell the difference between fact and fiction and he comes up with some plan that if we do this she will do that then we got her. But she never does what they think she will or they get caught and its another notch in her belt of “they got caught trying to hurt me in a criminal manner again”. See? Its building up against him. He can’t think that through. It falls apart everytime because Charles Perry isn’t smart and he is being outthought by people who are and he’s not able to figure out how she thinks to deal with her. You can’t deal with her by thinking like you wish she thinks. You deal with her like she really thinks and that guy can’t. He cannot figure her out. He misestimates every time. Is that a word? I’m making it a word. Okay? That’s all I’m saying. She’s being proven right at this point because he’s done it so much and gotten caught so much that she’s got so many of these emails or its out somewhere and everyone already knows what he was trying to do that when he does it, its just more evidence that he’s doing what she says. He’s a stalker. He’s worse than that but for right now, we’ll call him that. “

More: “He did hack her and he does see who she applies to for a job because she quit dancing. Then he calls them and tells them not to give her work. Its not like she’s not trying. Its probably very frustrating for her and that’s stealing. Right there that’s stealing. He kept saying ‘I take her car, get her kicked out, make it where she can’t get a job, she will call me and then do what I tell her to do. She’ll have no choice but to stop all this nonsense.’ What nonsense is that? She wants him to leave her alone? That’s not nonsense. The nonsense is on him. He is the nonsense. You don’t do this to people. No doubt Lucky was getting on to them about what they were doing to her and he didn’t like that. That’s why they killed him and I’m reluctant to just say they killed him, but I can’t come to any other conclusion when you look at it. They looked at her evidence. They knew he was taking her money and they sent Terry in to give her some but she never did what they thought she would because those cops told her not to. They told her he was letting Charles put cameras in that room and mess with her car and she didn’t even get all the stuff they did to her car in with that Motion to Intervene. They did a whole lot more to her car than she even put in that Motion. A whole lot more. So Lucky was starting to figure out she was not a consenting party because that’s how he did that. He led everyone over there to believe she consented and once Lucky started figuring out she didn’t, that’s when the shit hit the fan. I mean it hit in a big way. Perry thinks he can starve that girl into submission and she’ll call and he’ll make her lie. She has too much out there. Nobody would believe its anything but exactly what she says. He’s making her say or do something against her will and that is coercion. That is exactly what she says it is. If you aren’t suspicious by the fact that they have not once allowed a trial on merit now three times where Perry could have gone into Court and proven his case, then I don’t know what could be wrong with you. She’s got those texts from Terry showing he was a customer until appeals. Then nothing. Then right when his wife is dying, or when she starts talking about Motions to Vacate here he comes again. Night his wife died she’s got a text from him wanting to go in that strip club to see her. You know then now she files that Motion to Intervene and he bails and you don’t think that’s pretty good indication, and he works roads like Dave. He’s Dave Roberson’s guy. That’s one of his boys. You don’t think that’s a good indication they intended that to be an inducement not to file it and once she did they pull him back. He doesn’t have that kind of money and I think he’s told her that. I think he let that slip. I don’t know. I thought I saw something somewhere where she said he’d let it slip that he doesn’t have that kind of money so where did he get it if not from Dave Roberson and Charles Perry? Give to her so she lies and when she won’t, they pull him out. That’s a crime man. That’s tampering. She’s not going to call him. She’s not going to lie for him and at this point there is so much out there that even if she did they’d all know he forced her by starvation to do that. He’s seeing online where she applies and who all she’s working with or trying to and he’s calling those people and telling them not to do business with her same as he had guys sitting outside that club running off customers. Its not different. They got all kinds of things they were wanting to get out of her but he ran off all her customers and wanted to do a raid on that club then she quit. Now they got all this just from hacking her. He’s stealing so he can control her finances and make that force her into something against her will. That is motive for murder and it was when it was Lucky’s juridiction and it is now. He’s caught. She’s proving credible the more of this he does to her and had they all just left her alone, they wouldn’t be in this situation now. I don’t know why they can’t get that. ” 
The evidence that Charles Perry was coming up here and making people think we had a relationship or some engagement or whatever is in what Pinto said and they made sure I made no money that night either then Pinto comes up offering $5,000 for me to sleep with Charles, which I rejected, but they thought since they made sure I made no money that night, I’d be desperate enough to take it. There is evidence this is true. Perry did come up here and make it sound like we had a thing and there is no thing. He’s a delusional stalker is all that is. Imagine how creepy it is for me for some weirdo to just come up here and tell everyone we have a romance when no such thing exists. Its just not real. You don’t go through all the effort I’ve gone through to get away from him and then beat him off with a legal stick and be in a romance. You have a romance you go out on a date willingly, not because you’ve been kidnapped. “

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“The people in Lubbock can’t see what they do in Oklahoma. You have five Defendants. Charles Perry, Joe Chadwick, David Roberson, Joshua Burson and Matthew Powell. They can’t say Dave didn’t call his work buddy, tell him “meet me somewhere. I know she needs money because we hacked her and see what’s in her bank and we have cameras in her house and see what she’s got in her wallet and we ran off all her customers. Give her $300, here it is”, (hands it to him) ask her if she needs furniture because they got cameras in her house and know she does. She says “Oh yes thank you for your kindness.” Takes the furniture and he brings it over and gives Dave her address but she knew and didn’t take the bait. How many times has that happened and people in Lubbock have no idea what they do here. Charles knows because he talks to all five. He talks to the other four and he is the fifth, but they all may not, I mean nobody knows when Matt is in that mix, if it’s all the time or sometimes or how often he’s told what they do. I think he knows more often than not but I don’t think he always knows. Charles lies so he may lie to him sometimes about what they are really doing to her but there cannot be provocation or entrapment or twisting of her intent or anyone else’s for that matter. They cannot do things to her that cause then claim they are being harassed when they get caught and it’s out everywhere because when she points out that it defeats the purpose of establishing intent to wait until they do it to say something she’s right. She’s got an email establishing that before they do it. That makes all the difference in the world. She’s not make up excuses after the fact. Therefore it’s very important to her case and these guys that she gets to it before. The second she knows. She’s done that and it has built up over now five to six years. 
They have a guy who had no background in politics meet this chick who grew up in it, her granddad is Police Chief where she grew up and now it’s come out that she was around his friends two of whom were Magistrate Judges and this is from the time she’s born. Her family clearly had some power in Roswell in the Granddad was the Police Chief a d then Country Treasurer and then City Council and instrumental in the museums over there. She grew up in that then as an adult is active in politics and worked with Federal people in government reform. You have her roll into town infactuated this nobody small town accountant, she comes in from.Vegas mind you, he can’t take no fir an answer when she refuses his romantic advances, says she does not wish to ruin her career with an affair, he then begins to ruin it anyways. He’s bad mouthing her all over town. He’s trying to poison her. He’s got her parents taking her kid away. He’s messing with her car there to and she’s had enough and leaves town. The way he’s kept something going on between them in his imagination is watching her in her house, selling her on the dark web and talking to her friends and family to control her interactions with other people. These are people he shouldn’t know. He’s keeping a thing with her in his head by talking to people close to her. But he won’t allow them to tell her that but some of them are telling someone they are sick and tired of being told when they can and cannot talk to her and what they can say and know that is abuse. That is an indicator of abuse. It’s typical in domestic violence cases and stalking is domestic violence. He’s trying to control a woman that won’t have a thing to do with him. He’s maintaining this imaginary affair by talking to her friends and family and watching her on her computer and in her house voyeuristically. So then you gotta know he’s capable of some sick twisted things here. You got all that he can’t explain. He’s not thinking through that if something happens to her just like we saw with Nicole Brown Simpson she did report problems to police. Police all knew they had abuse issues and she did tell everyone he would kill her and now here she turns up murdered. Same thing. You got all this crap coming out over a long period of time where everyone knows he’s whacked and if something happens to her, he is the culprit. We can’t have people say “Well he finally killed her. She kept saying he would. He finally did. He just made it look unrelated. We all know it’s related because he’s been going at it for almost a decade.  That’s what they dont think through. Like the Court, you won’t let her in the Courtroom to do anything. You have all these attorneys and she’s by herself and hasn’t even been to law school. What are you afraid of so much so that you have backroom deals and the transcripts are none and there are no trial on merit anywhere. They didn’t think anyone would catch it? Everyone caught it. You can’t miss it. Something wrong there. She goes broke right when it’s appeal time and then when she’s gonna file a Motion To Vacate because now they’ve done even more to her she can sue for, while Roberson’s buddy’s wife is dying and in fact on the night she dies, they send him back in to give her money thinking that would flip her. She said you took $10000 and you think $200 would fix that? I’m supposed to be grateful? You are shitting me with this right? Can’t disagree.” I cannot disagree. Had he not taken her money she wouldn’t need to ask for help of to take Roberson’s buddy’s money. He gave her the run around and she brought that out that when she won’t lie they make him give her the run around. He gives her the run around not based on his life but based in her actions like filing that Motion to Intervene, appeals and so forth. His wife died and if there was a time for him to give her the run around it would be then. He didn’t. He’s texting her wanting to see her at work that very night. She doesn’t work the he texted. But the fact is he texted that night. Wife dues of cancer there is no run  around. There is when appeals Are due. What does that tell you? ” 

More “They were trying to get her drunk enough to open up and spill it but Cynthia barely drinks. Once in awhile she will drink a little bit not enough to do anything. They can’t get anything out of her. ” 


https://justice4cyn.com/pinto-one-of-many-of-perrys-proxy-stalkers-solicits-prostitution-recorded/

Click Below To See Documents Going Back Years Supporting Claims Made Herein

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Click here to see Information Received Regarding What Appears To Be An Intended Kidnapping

Click here to see Perry’s efforts to impede Appeals It’s common knowledge in Oklahoma that he does everything he can to impede appeals every single time there is one. It’s common knowledge. There is a reason he does that.

As always use allegedly where it applies.

We never confirm or deny reports, but if there were not some actionable intel included it would not be made public. The intent is to establish pre-meditation and intent in Charles Perrys part or his co-defendants, one or more of them but not always all, intent to commit a crime against Cynthia Ortiz.

We are told by police “He’s threatening your friends and family and quite a few are sick and tired of him telling them when he can talk to you and what they are allowed to say. ”

He just keeps doing everything we say he is doing.

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Charles Perry Recorded Discussing Forcing Her Entire Family To Sue Her In Another Effort To Force Her To Do And Say What He Demands Against Her Will, Intent To Tamper and Coerce Through Fraud and Litigation Harassment

Several updates are posted below

March 23, 2021 -Perry again interferes with Cynthia ability to appeal. He has been interfering in all civil proceedings from day one, illegally, so this is just more to add to what we already have. This blog alone covers 4 to 5 years of events, dates and times of Charles Perry’s criminal activity. He’s told on because he so badly disturbs people with what he is putting Cynthia and her family through. Never been more told on in his life. Click links below

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1073559836473893&id=100014596601592

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1073520733144470&id=100014596601592

Update March 19, 2021. Perry got caught on trying to isolate Cynthia from her family and now again today trying to again arrange a second false arrest and violate her rights and was wanting to know if she’s read her college Criminal Justice textbook covering prisoner rights. Recorded again.

“It’s public that he was trying again to arrange a second false arrest since the first one didn’t work out and violate my rights while I was there hoping I wouldnt know the difference. He got caught planning a crime against me again.” We’re he not hacking he wouldn’t know what class she was taking or what was in her text book in order to ask these questions. The more he invades her privacy, contacts her, causes duress, stress, problems, drama and loss the easier it is to get this information on his intent to cause harm to prove pre-meditation to cause malicious harm. He intends to coerce. That is his goal. He’s demanded she lie. She’s refused despite having suffered and suffered and suffered loss after after loss because she won’t. See more at the link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=992280804636871&id=183694208828872

Cop in Oklahoma tells cops from somewhere else that have been protecting Cynthia that he is hearing people are tired of Perrys drama and want him gone. He gives warning for Cynthia safety. See link below

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1069773073519236&id=100014596601592

Basically Charles Perry has attempted to entrap Cynthia and that was addressed by a Judge. See link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1071058686724008&id=100014596601592

From the same police investigating Charles Perry on many other criminal matters, who provided all this here, he is recorded again today.

My cop friend said “We got a recording of Charles telling individuals I’ll not disclose at this time who.they are but I’m sure you can guess that he wanted your entire family to sue you, to isolate you, to alienate you thinking that would force you into his bribe and lie. He’s running some pretty suck fantasies through his mind and discussing them with other people and trying to force your family to help him force this in you. They have been threatened and harassed to death same as you have. He’s really gone monster on this this one and it is fraud and we will put him in prison for this in addition to everything else when we complete this investigation into his entire criminal organization. He is to leave you and your family alone. This will just be another charge. It is intimidation, coercion, tampering and fraud and he will be charged. “

If they move forward with what they discussed in this recording my cop friends just got about an hour ago, it will be another criminal charges. They are to cease and desist all contact with me and everyone I know immediately or they will be charged.
What they still are not getting us that leaks come from angry people at watching what they are putting me through and my family. The more Perry contacts me, invades my privacy, butts into things he shouldnt even know about and causes loss the quicker and easier we get information like this. I can’t keep having to repeat myself.

It’s filed under “Let’s See If He Does It” and tagged “fraud” . It’s another threat and duly noted for the record. “

Emailed and documented Perry’s next cruelty.

Tends to support the evaluations of mental health experts who call Perry a sadist, erotomatic delusional stalker, antisocial, sociopath.

For his efforts for the past ten years what Perry ends up with are these recordings of him planning some hideous crime against his target, no chance of a date with her and told on more than ever in his life because what he’s doing is bothering and disturbing people so they leak and it goes to police and ends up here and some other places too within law enforcement. He has no idea who leaks or to who in law enforcement they leak.

See one shrink’s comments at link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1057673624729181&id=100014596601592

The cop tells us “They were recorded and we just got it, discussing the intent to overwhelm you with so many Plaintiffs you won’t have money to fight it. They want your entire family as Plaintiffs to make you feel overwhelmed enough to feel coerced, forced and in duress enough to lie. Perry is intent on forcing you to lie. That’s a crime. If he does this, he will be charged with a crime as will his attorneys and co conspirators. He pissed everyone off again with this vicious attack on you and we got the recording of him planning it, thankfully. They discussed complete diversity, amount in controversy and this is a strategy to coerce and intimidate you.” The police tell Cynthia Ortiz.
You dont do stuff like this if the witness is wrong. You only intimidate witnesses who have something of value. She’s right about Lucky’s murder. They implicate themselves the more they try to do to intimidate witnesses, coerce lies, and cover up their crimes and they do that constantly. “

Quote from Cynthia’s email:

The judge granting investigatory orders said “Why has Mrs Perry not gotten her husband into a mental.hospital by now? She has the legal authority to have him admitted. He’s clearly a danger to himself and others.” The Shrink said “She may be a victim of his abuse too.” He said “At this point there is, in my opinion no excuse for that because once she has him admitted the abuse against her is over. I want her charged too when you guys are done with your investigation and ready to file charges. As far as I’m concerned her failure to act in the best interest of even her own family is aiding and abetting. She needs to be charged as well and her attorney can explain to the Courts why their client let this go on so long in her own house and she did not take the appropriate actions to deal with it as a reasonable prudent individual and you and I both know Perry needs to thank his lucky stars Cynthia rejected him because had she not we all know she would have. We have heard locals in Oklahoma speak to that as well so it appears to me to be common knowledge that were Cynthia in that position she would have had Mr Perry admitted and probably many years ago. ” 
So Jackie is in some trouble too. “

More from her email here:

For some time the police on the need to know, referred to as McNamara Cops” sometimes, have obtained recordings of Charles Perry first discussing “There won’t be a new home for her or a new car. Make sure she can’t get that.” Remember this is the individual who claims he’s not a stalker. He claimed Oklahoma Courts have no jurisdiction. Only after a very big fight was I able to move forward. Then the comments on recordings were “See she can’t complain now. She got what she wanted. ” The response “Did you not see how hard she had to fight just to get a little bitty place to live and a little bitty car. Whatever she has, she has to fight with him to get it and then once she gets it, she has to fight like hell to keep it. This is a grown woman in a free country fight a guy she wants nothing to do with just to have the little bit she has then to keep it. He is not supposed to be in her life at all much less trying to make decisions as to what she can and cannot have. That’s just wrong. ” 
Later Perry was recorded stating “I should never have let her sign a lease. Get her kicked out. Get her out of Oklahoma. ” He wanted a family member to try to talk me into leaving the state. There were discussion.s about where he’d make me move to, and realtors consulted on housing. He told his guys “Get her car away from her and get her kicked out. Get her a bus pass and then she will call me and do what I tell her. They discussed forcing me to move to New Mexico, back to Vegas, Miami, but he wants me out if Oklahoma. Again this is a stalker, not someone I want in my life at all much less making decisions like this. Why would he care where I live? What’s it to him? He’s got an agenda. It’s not good. It’s cruel. Again he’s already testified he has no contacts giving Oklahoma Courts jurisdiction over him. This is an injury. Nothing in my life is any of his business. It’s the same thing as if Boy George fell in love with you, put cameras in your house, had you followed, started trying to get you fired or kicked out of your home, take your car, had meetings with your friends and family and asked them to help hurt you. Imagine what would you do if some person you didn’t like put you through all that because they decided they could and that’s how it was going to be and did it against your will. What would you do? Thank God I have help. That’s all I can say. I’ve done all one can do to try to get away from this whackjob. 
The next thing I knew is the landlord did try.to do a few things Perry was recorded talking about having them do. Now because my family is here, Perry’s conversations over this weekend we’re since asking them to talk me into leaving the state either was nixed for some reason or they refused he discussed a major law suit in which he wanted them all added as Plaintiffs. They discussed whether or not to file the suit in Texas, NM, or Oklahoma. They discussed the amount in controversy being over $75000. They discussed the fact that they wanted the lawsuit to bury me in so many Plaintiffs and hurt me so deeply that I couldn’t fight back and would finally lie for him. He said in the recording “I want her buried so deep in Plaintiffs so that she has no money to fight them all and it cuts her off from her family so she will do what I tell her. ” Again not a person I want in my life at all much less making these kinds of decisions. He’s way overstepping his bounds and this is not only “just wrong” as the guy put it, it’s flat out bazaar. This is abuse. It is domestic violence. It is intended to cause emotional and financial distress. The fact that he does such hideous things to me on an ongoing basis is the reason people tell on him. 
Our shrink spoke to this weeks ago. “When you care about any person at all just as a person and you are asked to do something to hurt another human being and something you know is wrong, that request in and of itself is psychological torture. It causes one to feel stress, anxiety, guilt, depression, they are uncomfortable, they feel creeped out, and disgusted and scared. If they weren’t scared they wouldn’t do it. He’s threatening to ruin businesses and have people false arrested the same as he did to Cynthia. He’s intimidating people, and that is a crime, or there is no way they’d help him at all much less cause such hurtful devastation . He’s a sadist. This a sexual enjoyment for him. Again he couldn’t do it if it wasn’t. He sees it as a relationship because he and only he gets a sexual gratification from doing things to other people that you and I consider heinous and unthinkable. For some when they have seen no way out of what they view is a hard and horrible situation they don’t wish to be in, if we are able to reach out to those individuals without being detected, we have no problem getting full cooperation. We relieve their suffering they feel by being asked to cause someone else suffering. This is for all normal human beings so imagine how much worse it is for Cynthias family and her friends are as tired of watching Perry cause suffering and want for her happiness same as anyone does for their friends and family. It is Psychological torture for both Cynthia and whoever is asked to cause her harm. ” 
One of my friends at work who was asked to harm me told me of what she was asked to do and said “You know it goes against who I am to hurt another person.  I can’t do it. I can’t imagine why he’d want to do somethimg like this to you. I dont understand. I think you are dealing with someone who is wired so fucked up that one strand breaks and he would flip out and do something like shoot up school. I feel like he’s that miswired. Like it scares me. I feel like Mr Perry is that miswired and one wrong move he snaps and you got dead people everywhere but at the same time I cannot hurt you like he asked. I don’t know what to do. You tell me. ” I said “Tell him someone.else intervened and you weren’t able to. ” Whether she did or not I dint know. Next thing I knew, she quit and went to work somewhere else. She just left. That is how deep the disgust goes here with this creep and his delusions imposed on am entire community of good normal people who are sickened by what he’s doing and I have also asked my police friends to include an arrest warrant for Jackie when they.are ready to move forward. There are other people involved in his “business”. They dont want to have any need to plea bargain to get information on other people. They already want all the names and already have a case built against each one so high there is no possibility of a not guilty verdict or them re-entering society ever. That takes longer. Unfortunately it takes longer but at the end of the day the results will be freedom. People who Charles would have robbed of a future will have their future bright and cheery before them with out him in the way. 
He’s told on because his conduct so deeply disturbs that those who tell are sick and disgusted and not tolerant of how hideous he is to me and other people. Never in his life has he had this kind of investigatory body up his ass at all times. He’s not getting it even yet. As many times as I’ve quoted him verbatim while he’s in some meeting asking someone to commit a serious crime and injury to me, it’s still not clicking for him. Nobody understands that. We had five doctors review his case and all five not only believe he’s mentally ill but severely  clinically mentally retarded not to be able to put that together in his head by now. “If you hurt people, you will be told on. You have have no idea who tells or who in law enforcement they tell but you will be told on and you will go to jail. ” That does not click for him at all. Something is clearly wrong with the intellect, logic, and reasoning part of his brain. They want a brain scan. “If you hurt people, they wont like you. ” Also not clicking. “If you invade privacy, you will be known as a sex pervert and not liked. If are mean, nobody will help you be mean. ” Things like that we all learned and understood about social norms and acceptable civilized conduct are not clicking for Charles. Even when I’ve said “You have no chance ever at a date with me. You call any of my ex’s and they will tell you how they treated me to win my heart. Not peeling, not butting in where you dint belong, not crossing boundaries, not taking my family away, not putting me in jail, not taking my car. They did none of what you obsess about doing that I find repulsive. ” This is basic normal knowledge that no one should have to explain to a man of his age at all much less repeatedly and he still can’t grasp that concept. He still doesn’t get it. Goes right over his head thus, the medical preliminary evaluation. Criminologists, criminal psychologist, neurologists and so on can act as consultants for police and gear the very same recordings I’ve heard and make an evaluation. Perry truly believes his own bullshit. He thinks by forcing me against my will to leave my family after he’s threatened and harassed them to death and do things not even normal humans do, I would then call him and do what he wants. Why would he think that? Has he met me? You do that, you will piss me off and I’ll find a legal to fuck you up so bad you won’t recover. That’s me. I don’t bend over for sickos or corrupt like Perry. I don’t do it. I never have. I will get in his face and make him cry for him mamma. Nobody has done more to fight his crime than my team and I. He’s been caught in alleged crime more than ever before in his life since he met me. What does that tell you about how I handle low lifes like him? He’s not the first I’ve handled and he won’t be the last. You fight crime and you relieve suffering or like cancer it will cause death of some sort. I am my Granddad’s Granddaughter (former Police Chief in Roswell NM where I grew up) to my core. I could have taken the bribe long ago. So could my cop friends. They have stood face to face with Perry getting him to divulge all kinds of information and he had no idea. He thought they were voters. Had they wanted a bribe, they would have said something then. 
So all this Perry has tried to do comes down to attempts to coerce. It’s not just creepy stalking of a delusional erotomaniac. It is tampering and attempts to coerce. Why coerce someone who doesn’t know where the bodies are? Why coerce someone who is wrong about Chief Millers murder? What does a reject care about where I live? What I drive? He testified he has no connections to this state giving this state’s courts jurisdiction. Perry is dying for me check dockets. There is not a day that he isn’t pushing that, so why? What corrupt thing did he do that he wants me to see that badly? I will look when I’m told by police to look, not when Perry pushes. Where I live and what I drive and my job is none of his business and doest concern him or he needs to hold a press conference to notify the public that he intentionally lied under oath in a Court of Law about his true activities in the forum state of Oklahoma. Meantime there are 35 guys investigating him that got me all this information that know exactly what Perry is doing in the forum state of Oklahoma and Florida. 
This email is to document the information contained herein to establish intent and pre-meditation to commit come against me, Cynthia Ortiz, in the forum state of Oklahoma where I live by my own choice and free will. “

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From what I’ve been told, and these are the same police that gave me The McNamara email and everything since, their prosecutor is so disgusted by the fact that I’ve not been heard in any hearing and at the Orders with no explaination, just a signature. I said “A five year old can sign their name on a piece of paper” He said “or a monkey. Where is the evaluation of your evidence, facts, and standard applied with case precedence in any of these orders at all. In my case we aren’t giving him a plea deal option. We will go straight to trial because I’m going to make sure you are heard. This is bullshit. ” 
So you do what you do. Know what the consequences are when you do it.”

More from her email: “I’m not commenting on smoking, but to say my house has always smelled wonderful no matter where I live and I’m always complimented on that. Since he is peeping he can tell everyone whether or not I smoke inside my home. He can explain that one. I won’t comment in it one way or the other.
That is a sick crime, by the way to peep on women.  Since he’s a peeping tom, he can tell everyone whether I smoke inside and explain why my home smells like it smells and how the hell he would know any of that. “

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Perry has, over the past few days, harassed Cynthia and harrassed and harrassed her about checking the Dockets. Is he expecting her to be happy about whatever corrupt thing he did that will show up there? Is he that delusional? Why do something like that? Why in the hell would anyone do something like that?

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