Charles Perry and His “Associates” Continue To Commit Fraud and Tamper With Victims and Witnesses To Their Alleged Crimes

Perry and his associates who say they had not a damn thing at all to do with Chief Millers murder, did this deal where nothing is on Officer Nealey indicating he was in any fight at all but their idea was “I know, we will say there was an affair between Lucky and Mike’s wife and they got in a fight and it was in self defense he beat Lucky to death. That’ll fool them. Nobody will ever know.”

In self defense means there was a fight, there would be evidence of that fight on Mike Nealey if he were in the fight. Again, look at what he says in his interview and the fact that he shows Detectives “I can’t believe you. Look at my hands. Nothing on them that looks like I was in a fight.” That’s paraphrased but you can see what he actually says here.

Click here to see NewsOn6 Coverage which includes Officer Nealeys Interview With Police Just after Chief Miller’s murder.

If you are in a fight, you are going to to have evidence of that on you and even if you are knocked out and can’t remember anything, you’d ask who beat you. You would want to know who hit you. Officer Nealey never says “I can tell I was in a fight. Look I’m all bruised up. Who did this to us? Where is Lucky? Is he okay?” Instead he points out he can’t believe there was a fight because there is no evidence on him that he was in a fight at all much less a deadly one. So why is that? Probably because he wasn’t in one. He was drugged and knocked out. People lie but evidence doesn’t and if he were in a fight, self defense or otherwise, he’d have evidence of that on him somewhere. He would have asked about it and he didn’t because there was nothing there to ask about. This was his immediate response before anyone had time to threaten or coerce or intimidate him.

Cynthia knew in March, 2020 he was drugged and could not have physically even hit anyone much less kill someone and he had no motive. She tells the Florida States Attorney in her deposition and he asks her if she’s a cop.

Click here to hear Cynthia’s Deposition

There was no follow up as to how she knew that. Months after March, depositions were taken from first responders who did testify Officer Nealey was found unresponsive, incoherent, passed out, in respiratory distress, and treated for drug overdose with Narcan. This depo is said to be woefully inadequate particularly in a murder trial. Fact finders and truth seekers should ask a whole lot more questions than she was asked. Why is that? Was this to find fact or to appease?

See Court and other related documents here:

Click here to see Court and Other Related Documents on Officer Nealeys Case Here

They have also been relentless in harassing Cynthia which you don’t do to witnesses who are wrong about the facts or don’t know anything. But of course the world is just one big blob of brainless Turnip Truck Faller Offers and nobody suspects a thing at all.

We expect to see charges against Officer Nealey dropped very soon and him back to his family and being Charles Perry and his “associates” are plum out if leverage, he gets to talk to whoever the hell wants when he’s out. It’s simply not your call.

For people who are recorded in crime planning as much as they have been over the past six years, and oddly keep going at it, being they are not the brightest bulbs, they seem to be unclear on the law and what they can and cannot do. They cannot lie in Court, harass victims and witnesses, threaten, tamper with or coerce. All that money didn’t cover up a thing. It seems at this point they’d be more clear they need to leave everyone else alone and stop imposing their problems and drama on everyone else. Nobody owes them a cover up or a lie. All they were asked to do is leave.everyone else alone, get busy being normal like the rest of us, go do things with their friends and family and then they don’t need a cover up. It’s not that hard. The rest of us can do it without help just fine.

Because this whole thing started with Charles Perry’s fraud in Court and obsession with taking everything Cynthia has hoping to force her to take his bribe and lie. She’s not going to lie. He has worked tirelessly attempting to coerce, harass, steal from her thinking once she’s completely broke, she will finally have no choice but to lie for Perry and take a bribe. He’s made no secret of his intent in Oklahoma. They may not know much in Texas but it is all over Oklahoma.

Click here to see “That Whole Thing Was Over Her Car: The Case For Officer Nealeys Innocence

Click here to see blog in March about Officer Nealey being drugged and never tested. Discovery shows months later he was treated with Narcan for drug overdose

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Perry’s Harrassment of Cynthia Implicates Him In Chief Miller’s Murder

Best said by her in this email

See link for addressing of Perry’s attempt at selective prosecution because he got caught in crime and told on. Telling on someone is not a crime. The crime reported is the crime not the reporting of it or commenting on it and the allegations Charles Perry has made that are ridiculous. He got caught creeping around in betrayal of his wife, kids, family and he’s mad and if it weren’t true he wouldn’t need to retaliate, or intimidate or coerce a lie. 

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It seems currently the bigger fear is regarding Chief Miller’s murder and Officer Nealeys trial. When reviewing the interview with Escambia Detectives and him.pointing out the fact there is no evidence on him anywhere to indicate he was in any fight at all, in that were he beat up, even having no memory of what occurred which he would have indications on his body that he was in a fight he would have at least asked “Who beat me up? Where is Lucky? Is he okay?”. Even if Officer Nealey beat Chief Miller to death and could not remember it, he would have at least said that. He did not. Instead he says “I don’t believe you. There is nothing on me to indicate I was in a fight much less a deadly fight.” And my knowledge that he was drugged and not able to fight, that he was not tested being brought to the attention of the Florida States Attorney in March 2020 prior to depositions being taken which revealed first responders treated Officer Nealey with Narcan for drug overdose. All this occurred just six days after my complaint of vehicle tampering in which a suspect was not named. My statement to Officer Nealey was “I dont know anyone else who goes weirdo like this, but Charles Perry and he’s done stuff like this for a decade no matter where I live and it’s been one thing after another with this guy and we are currently in Court over it. ” That’s motive. His name was not on my report as a suspect. He was named as the most likely suspect but that would be something police investigate to confirm or rule out which they never got to do being Perry had yet another knee jerk reaction which one can infer guilt from, in what appears to be exactly the same thing he did to me in December 2015 through January 2016, intending to impede a police investigation in another state. He obstructed justice and caused the loss of forensic evidence. I was never tested for poisoning nor was Officer Nealey and both significant incidents obstructing justice occurred within a week of my police report being filed to report a crime believed to have been committed or possibly committed by Charles Perry and his associates. Police reports are required by law to seek an Order of Protection. The threats to kill me and arrange a false arrest Perry made to retaliate against my first request for a Protective Order were well documented months before which when he carried out these specific, not vague threats, gave reason to need one. He knew the police report was a requirement of Oklahoma law and didn’t tell the Judge or Jury who decided to indict. He intentionally concealed a material fact. They had no idea the law required me to file the report, that it was stated on the first denied order because of my failure to follow that legally required procedure. Charges were dismissed in my favor. Despite the blatant violations of my civil rights Perry got my claims dismissed of course all in hearings where I was not allowed to argue the law, show evidence, testify or cross examine him. He did not even have the balls to face me fair and square in Court. He’s a coward, a pussy, and a low life bully. He did the same thing to an officer of the law, sworn to protect the citizens and clearly Perry believed he was about to do so or he wouldn’t have taken such drastic measures to obstruct. He, allegedly took the life of a police officer and in doing so, pissed a lot of cops who are smart enough, clearly in that they solve crimes all damn day, to look at the facts and determine Michael Nealey did not and could not have killed Chief Miller. Perry harrassed, Coerces, abuses his title because you don’t really have any power if you get off abusing women and children. That’s pretty damn pathetic. Power is not in a title or position. It is in the way we conduct ourselves and that requires using respect and dignity for the rights and wishes of other people. I will not lie for that sick son of a bitch. I’m very very proud to be a part of the team who has been the first ever in his life to catch that bad guy. I’m proud of this. I want that to be very clear. Charles Perry is like gorgeous perfect grass over a sewer. You start digging a little and you find sometimes things are not as perfect as they appear. There is shit under there and it stinks and repulses. I am sorry that is the case but we all have choices. He chose to betray his wife and family, live a lie, he had four years to control himself without needing a cover up. I only told a few people what he was doing to me in Lubbock for four years and most did not and do not live in Texas. Some were with me,.when Perry went weirdo. They saw him. Four years is a long time to keep.yiur mouth shut while giving the offender ample time to stop. 
We have had enough of this crap up here and while Lubbock tolerates this bullshit we don’t. We are not okay with loosing our police, businesses being ruined so Perry can steal my money, and make it harder to fight him off through legal means in court, harm, threaten, stress out, cause fear and just bother other people with his mental problems. Sick of it!!!! That is the reason he has leaks and he has yet to figure that out. I guess things just don’t click for him like they do the rest of us. 
This should adequately address any slanderous defamatory remarks Perry has made about both myself and Officer Nealey and his attempts to retaliate against me yet again through known fraud and abuse of power using selective prosecution. 

From The Desk of Cynthia R Ortiz
(918) 401-0724

“The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.” — Albert Einstein”

 Cynthia recently discovered Perry not only had her social security card taken from her workplace but her birth certificate and a Power of Attorney reserved only for her family and is limited to use during a time that she would be incapacitated from her storage unit. It appears it was taken the night of Chief Miller’s procession when police were attending the procession.

Click here to See Photos Of Pertinent Court Documents

Click here to see News On 6 Showing Officer Nealeys Police Interview

Click Here To See Evidence of Charles Perry’s Mental Illness

Click here to hear Cynthia’s Psychologist Explain The Danger Perry Is To Cynthia

Click here to see more info proving Officer Nealey did not kill Chief Miller

Click here to hear Cynthia’s Deposition in Nealeys Case

Click Here To See Events Leading Up To Chief Miller’s Murder

Click here to see evidence appearing to show Charles Perry is a repeat offender and what he did to Cynthia, not his first rodeo.

The attempts to discredit Cynthia or force her against her will to leave Oklahoma and go back to Texas where Perry believes he can force her to.lie and get away with it or kill her, have reached a fever pitched level. Almost daily a cease and desist letter is sent to attorneys. They are unprofessional and unethical in their failure to restrain their clients unlawful and offensive conduct. For Officer Nealey to have acted in self defense he would first need to have evidence on him that he was in a fight. He points out in the police interview the fact that he had no idea he was in a fight at all because there was no evidence on him that he fought with anyone at all. Hard to do when you are drugged into a bolivian. We did say in March before depositions were taken and first responders testified they treated him for drug overdose that he was drugged and never tested and not physically able to fight or even move as was said before. See links above and pay close attention to the dates. Dates in this case are key material facts.

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Charles Perry Caught Again Tampering With A Witness To His Crimes by Stealing Money

Perry caught again tampering with a witness to his crimes. If she didn’t know anything, or if she were wrong, he’d have no need. He’s implicating himself more by the day. That’s what stupid people do and criminals are stupid or they wouldn’t be criminals. In fact he is trying very hard to force Cynthia Ortiz back to Texas against her will. See link below.

Click here to see info on Perry’s efforts to force Cynthia Ortiz back to Texas against her will. Against her will being the key words in that.

And more nefarious plans by Perry to retaliate against Cynthia caught November 15, 2020

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Perry is told “You don’t have to kidnap her, tie her up, throw her in the back of a van, hold her at gun point and threaten her for it to be witness tampering. You steal her money or run off her money it’s the same thing as if you did that. You intend to influence her against her will. That is witness tampering and it is a crime and you’d better stop “

Perry is slow so don’t hold your breath. There is a reason he’s been caught now more than ever in his life because he’s done this all his life. Sometimes the grass over the sewer is the most perfect looking on the outside but you start digging a little and its nothing but a bunch of shit. He’s so full of it, he believes his own bullshit but he’s not fooling the McNamara cops. The McNamara email should have been enough to let Perry know he was under investigation. Most people have the good sense to stop when you have cops watching everything you do. Not Charles Perry though. Now there is more even today posted here.

This is regarding a customer Perry and Roberson sent in to Cynthia’s work when Chief Miller complained about them stealing her money in 2019, to impede civil court proceedings. When she wouldn’t back down they pulled him out. When she gave notice of intent to file Motions to Vacate after they were caught talking to Judges, they sent him back in. When she wouldn’t back down again, they pulled him back again. These comments are regarding intentions of law enforcement to charge these guys with grand larceny with intent.to coerce. The comments were “Had he sent these guys in weekly and had them spend the same thing every time, they wouldn’t have a case but the way he did this in sending them in and pulling them back on spending then pulling them out completely all based on her response, now they do. Had they just been consistent, no matter what she did it’s hard then to argue that Perry had expectations of Cynthia to lie or back off. ” That was in response to a quote of a prosecutor who told Cynthia “I cannot give you legal advice, but if Tulsa doesn’t we will charge him with grand larceny with intent to coerce. Research your civil options on that in Oklahoma. ” She did and found conversion and it was included in her Breach case. Imagine how pissed off that prosecutor was when they got that dismissed with no hearing at all. Not smart to piss off the prosecutor whose about to charge you with a crime. They do it all the time and they do it knowingly then whine and complain that they got caught yet again. Roberson has had someone ask Cynthia if it’s the FBI. She won’t answer those types of questions but for them to ask and yet continue in the criminal activity, get upset when they get caught, go right back at it, get caught, get upset again, is like they are stuck in some sort of pervert hamster wheel. Nobody understands why in the hell they do that and they have for years. We are.lookimg forward to their arrest so we don’t have to deal with it anymore.

Click here to see more evidence of Charles Perry stealing Cynthia’s money with intent to coerce her to lie. His intent is to force her against her will to lie, which means she’s telling the truth.

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Perry Goes Into Full Gear Retaliation After Cynthia’s Testimony in Deposition in Chief Miller’s Murder

Perry was recorded a week or so ago stating “There is not going to be a car payment or a new apartment.” These are things he should know nothing about. He’s making every effort to carry out these very specific threats and they are threats and they are criminal acts. He is a criminal. He is not to contact her in any way at all much less retaliate by creating intentional economic distress and he has and he is and it is a crime. Of course these are also acts that infer to any reasonable prudent person, his guilt. You don’t do this to someone who doesn’t know anything or who isn’t correct on fact. The good she has done appears to threaten the bad he does and he’s trying to teach her a lesson for doing that. And when he does what we say he was threatening then we can say “Well, but we told you so. ” And for Charles Perry we all wonder how he is going to explain all this.

Perry also, knowing he’d planned to ruin Cynthia’s income this weekend, in effort to carry out the other threat of “There is not going to be any car payment or new apartment” again this is illegal, and that is from a recording of him, also said yesterday in a recording or was asked “Are we going to let Ernest (Cynthia’s ex husband” help her if she comes up short?” So we see if he does what he was recorded saying he would. He has already in part. He did not like what she said in her testimony and again, that would infer his guilt.

Her email about it also posted here:

“Okay so first there was The McNamara email, or the email of October 29, 2015 to my ex husband telling him Charles wanted to arrange a false arrest and was threatening to do that. He then did that. Then there was 100 other things and David Roberson, before my false arrest, asked me “Who is telling you everything?” He told me he’d tell me who my real parents are, in exchange for that information to which I replied by leaning in right up to his ear and said “Go fuck yourself.” I don’t care who my real parents are. I’m not six years old. Then after my false arrest, he had Margo ask me if it was the FBI. My response was “My charges were not federal.” He got all happy like he got something from me, went prancing outside like a princess but clearly didn’t fully even understand what just happened. Then there was my March, 2020 email telling the entire world that Mike Nealey could not have killed Chief Miller, because he was drugged. Sure as shit, I pull up the docket looking for something I could file to put pertinent information before his judge, and found several depos from first responders stating he was treated for drug over dose with Narcan. Not a mark on him, drugged to the point he was treated for drug overdose, and he killed someone in that condition? He did not. The prosecutor, not Mr. Mitchell, asks me if I’m a cop. Would be different if it were Mr Mitchell. It wasn’t. It was Mr. Meyer. 
Then we have customers disappear, and an empty building when every other strip club in town is packed, during the busiest season of the year for strip clubs, while we are running ads. I went all around town tonight and took pictures of every other strip club in town and our’s. Its not delusion, its photographed. All my regulars disappeared and one, that you all know of, but for whoever else gets this, we will call “Sam”. That one was sent in when Chief Miller got upset that I was always broke. He came into my work to find out why. I know because I talked to him. Whoever asked me about it on Facebook, didn’t get my answer because my answers are designed to get information, not give it, unless its going to be used to link someone in front of me that shouldn’t be in front of me to Charles Perry, Roberson, Chadwick, Powell, or Burson. So, Lucky comes in trying to find out why I’m broke. He and I talk. They send Sam in to give me money to appease Lucky. Then appeals start and he stops texting, or coming in and won’t respond. I put his texts on the docket. Remember the McNamara cops have a prosecutor too, who said “We are gonna charge them with grand larceny with intent to coerce because they are taking your money intending to coerce you with Perry’s bribes. He wants to force you back to Texas so he can kill you and get away with it. We recorded them talking about it more than once. Meantime, you have a civil claim. I can’t give you legal advice but research that. I did. I found “conversion” and put that in my breach claim. Again Sam’s texts were put into evidence with that and the state claim. Once I give intent to file Motions to Vacate, in comes Sam, while his wife is dying of cancer no less. Who goes into a strip club while their wife is dying of cancer? This at this point is my only regular that I have left. They ran the rest off. They want to take my money so that I’m broke, am forced back to Texas where they all know I don’t want to go, Perry thinks we talk things out, which really means, he’s gonna tell me what hes’ gonna do and I can take his bribe and lie for him, or he will kill me and in Texas, he’ll get away with it. We all know this. He’s discussed it and discussed it and its been recorded and recorded over and over and over again. Its out there. Everyone knows that’s his intent. He wants me to lie. He’s gonna talk and I have to listen. He does that now against my will and he never shuts up. He ignores my wishes and my desire to be free of him and never contacted by him, and he does it anyways. He knows he makes my skin crawl. He doesn’t care. He’s gonna bother me anyways. That is why the shrink says he’s got out of control antisocial disorder and he’s not tried at all to disprove that. 
After I didn’t back off on my pointing out fact about Officer Nealey being not able to have killed Lucky, nor does the evidence on him indicate he was even in a fight much less a deadly one, nor does his reaction in his interview with police indicate he was in any kind of fight being he never says “Yes, I can see why you think I beat Lucky to death. I’m all beat up, but it wasn’t me.” nor does he say “I’m all beat up. Who did this to us? Where is Lucky? Is he okay? What happened?” He says “I can’t believe Lucky is dead. I can’t believe you. There is nothing on me to indicate we were in any fight at all much less a deadly one.” He was Mannford’s Detective. He knows what evidence shows and yet not one time indicates he was in any fight at all, is found incoherent and treated for drug over dose. Never tested, same as me, but treated for drug overdose. Maybe that is why the prosecutor asked me if I was a cop. I just sherlocked that bitch. Then when I said, “Mike opened the door for hotel staff all the way when they went up and talked to him the first time about the TV remote. Staff saw Lucky resting on the bed so it was wide enough for them to see that. At 8pm, Lucky answers when they go up about the noise but he won’t open it more than 6 inches. He had no reason to conceal Mike. Mike was a registered guest. They knew he was in there. So who else was in that room that wanted to be concealed keeping Lucky from opening the door all the way? Charles and Dave? Their hitman? Who was Lucky concealing??? Wasn’t Mike. An hour later, he was dead six days after they caught my car vandalism complaint in which no suspect is even named. They look guilty even if they aren’t. Lucky was mad about my money. They sent Sam in to appease him. When I said all that, these guys over here were like, “She just pinned the tail on the donkey. She just did it.” meaning the same thing as “She just Sherlocked that bitch like a pro.” 
Then when I don’t back off my story, they pull Sam way back on spending. They would have pulled him out again altogether, but I threw a fit and pointed out how guilty that makes them look. Now, that we got his full name and address to subpoena, the prosecutor (McNamara not Meyers), tells me what a great job he thinks I did and says, “You did a fantastic job on that. They keep wanting to know who we are, and they’ve had six years to get that information out of you. If they just watched what you all do, and did the same thing, they’d get the same results. You flat said we were watching Sam. They knew we were watching him specifically. Had they had a couple guys going in weekly, as your regulars, not talking about anything significant at all, spend the same amount every time, then it would probably not flag you off and clam you up like it does when they send in these guys one at a time, one time, spend a little, say something weirdo or be an ass to you, and you won’t tell them anything and if you do, we use it to link it to them. They did testify in Court under oath they weren’t doing this to you. They did testify they weren’t harassing you, weren’t taking your money or causing injury at all to you in the forum state of Oklahoma and got all your claims dismissed and yet here we are, and they have some guy want information on your car or you insurance or where you live or something that is none of their business and if you give them something its to prove they are doing exactly what we say they are. They lied in Court. Now what you did is you just chilled with the guy. You gained his trust and didn’t ask in a weird way or just random what his address and last name were. You built a relationship over a long period of time with this guy and the opportunity presented itself over time for you to get that without him suspecting anything at all, then you cut him loose. I’m proud of you. Great job. But now the problem they have is, he doesn’t know why he’s been cut off. He’s not supposed to know them or be associated with them because they testified in court, and here is the important part, TO GET YOUR CLAIMS DISMISSED that they were not doing what you asserted. You put his texts on the docket. Had he gone in regularly, once a week and spend the exact same amount every time, I’d have no case, and you’d have to pull his texts from your’s. He’s no longer a claim of conversion for you. But that’s not what they did. They pulled him out. They send these guys in once they get weirdo or asshole with you and get no information out of you. They have had six years. You were consistent and patient and you got what you needed out of him. But he’s not supposed to be a claim or a crime and he is. He’s not supposed to know his texts are on the docket because you redacted his name. He’s not supposed to know you sent the more recent texts to the Florida attorneys. He would only know that if Perry and Roberson hacked you and told him. So he has no idea why you cut him loose and this guy just trusted you enough to give you his last name and address. He’s not going in there and saying “I know you are upset but I don’t know why and I’d like to fix it and get a VIP” and go right back to his normal spending and keep it there so he’s not a cause of action. Remember he has no relation to Perry and Roberson supposedly according to them. He’s not a party to that crime according to them. He’s just some random guy, right? So why has he not popped in to smooth things over with you? If he’s not a party to the retaliation and coercion, why the variations in his  activity and spending that corresponds exactly with whatever Perry and Roberson’s agenda was? Why is your club empty all the sudden after your testimony if they didn’t kill Lucky? That’s my position on this and this is not our crime, but we can work it in as being part of our’s. You are my witness too. You are the victim of Perry’s voyeurism too. We can work it in and we intend to. They gave us the case. You flat told them we were watching Sam specifically and your money and they did this anyway, then they get all upset when we catch them, but we flat told them that’s what we were keeping an eye on, so why are they surprised. They knew. Why get surprised when you are caught in crime when you were just told law enforcement is watching this person in particular to see if they commit this crime in particular? I don’t even get that. They have made this easy.” 
So now, this week the focus is on David Roberson. They think he’s going to commit a crime, he knows he’s being watched, so he can’t get all shocked and dismayed if they catch him when he knows all eyes are on him. They are on all of them, but him in particular more than the others and part of that is pertaining to my money and him creating loss on that. 
So, they continue to do exactly what they planned out in the conversations recorded and put out BEFORE they actually did it and that has happened over and over and over and over again over the past six years. I don’t like Charles Perry. If I had a dime for everytime someone said to me, “He didn’t even have the balls to face you fair and square in Court and if I did what they did to you, I’d be in jail, so why aren’t they?” They have more leaks because they are pissing everyone off. Perry is caught in crime, no matter what delusional planet the man lives on that he can’t get that is not relevant. What is relevant is one minute they are all shocked and dismayed that I knew before and want to know who these “mystery” guys are, but the next they do what we all said they would anyways then whine and complain that they got caught again. We don’t even have words for that. 
And on the shrink issues, they were recorded also more than once saying “We can’t get Dr. Russell to change now what she said back then, so we need to get Cynthia back into therapy with a different Doctor so we can get one to diagnose her with something.” and then telling people “She was treated by a psychologist for a year and a half, not realizing people already know what she said and that I was never diagnosed with any mental illness or treated for any mental illness and her recording states her belief very clearly that she sees Charles exactly as I do: a mentally disabled man who just wants attention and causes problems because he can’t get it any other way. My false arrest was a stalking escalation. Her letter states very clearly that I want no contact with Charles Perry, have tried hard to get away from him and am afraid of him. Nothing in it about being diagnosed or treated with a mental illness. They know that or they wouldn’t being trying to force me back into therapy to some doctor that will say what they want them to. 
All of this is well established for the record in more than one Court. When the shrink testifies in probable cause hearings, thus far, their requests are granted and that judge is very irritated with Perry, Powell, Roberson, Burson, and Chadwick, as is everyone in Oklahoma who has been burdened by the imposition and drama queens that they are. This is crime, not a relationship. In fact, my cop friends tell me over here, they talked to someone who told them, “We tell people all the time, ‘Don’t let Perry convince you he’s Cynthia’s boyfriend. He’s not. She can’t stand him. She has done everything on earth to get away from him. He’s one of those loony toons who has some day dream and from what we understand, they never even kissed much less had sex. He’s impotent. He can’t perform anyways, but they never even kissed and he’s been in some imaginary relationship she knows nothing about and wants nothing to do with for six years. Its some day dream, that’s all I can say but if he tells you he’s her boyfriend, thats bullshit. He’s not. He’s full of shit. She wants nothing to do with him.” 
When they lie, not only does it offend people in insulting their intelligence, but it makes them look guilty. You don’t lie about something that isn’t a crime or that is normal. You also don’t retaliate against someone who knows nothing or someone who is wrong. My club is empty. My regulars are all gone so why the hell do they think doing that would convince people of their innocence??? It just pisses everyone off bad and that is why they have leaks. We have said this for years. We can flat straight up tell them stuff like this and it goes right over their heads. They flat don’t get it. Its unbelievable. “

Also tonight in response to Defendants slander, Cynthia address that with yet another “cease and desist” demand. Perry continues to smear her. There are things one only does if they are guilty. They wouldn’t need to retaliate or smear her or murder her or make problems for her, or cause intentional economic and social distress, but for the fact, they are. Here is that email to Perry, Roberson, Chadwick, Powell and Burson’s attorneys

Do not say again, at any time, that I was treated for a year and a half by a therapist and have some problem. 
You know good and well Dr Russell diagnosed me and treated me for nothing because there was nothing to treat. She said Charles Perry can’t get my attention or the time of day from me so he does the very same thing her mentally disabled patients do and pokes like a five year old or as she said, mentally disabled person and makes problems and escalates to get attention he can’t get any other way. She said I have tried to get away from it and am afraid because you all cannot get a life and get out of mine and continue to prove her assessment correct. It’s attached in case you forgot. Everyone in the planet has seen this. Dr Russell basically says the same thing the cops shrink says “If she doesn’t like it, he does more of it. ” And this right here is that. Perry is trying to force Cynthia to lie. He’s trying to force her to do and say things he wants but that are opposite of what she wants. He’s doing this against her will. That would be the reason the shrink believes he is severely delusional, has antisocial disorder and is a sexual sadist. She wants nothing to do with him and no intelligent mentally stable person would not be clear on that after seven years of her rejection in both what she says and what she does. This is criminal activity. She said No. That’s what she means. Forcing her against her will is the crime no matter the title put on it. He’s not wanted. Everyone else moves on so what’s his problem that instead he’s forcing? She’s not going to lie. She’s not going to apologize for his inability to function like all normal people function. That’s his problem and it is a very very big problem. You can have empathy for those with mental illness, but you don’t allow them to engorge in criminal activity and do nothing to stop it. He is doing what the shrinks say and making no effort to prove them wrong.

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Secondly that arose from an agreement after you all had me arrested, not for committing a crime, but for doing something Oklahoma law requires to get a Protective Order and was first threatened which is exactly the reason a Protective Order is needed. You obstructed justice and you can lie all you want. Nobody believes you didn’t because nobody is as dumb as you all are. If I had a dime for every time someone said “If I did what they did to you I’d be in jail, so why aren’t they?” I’d be rich. 
Your client agreed never to contact me again and that is in the same document that required therapy, not because I needed it, but because you needed a lie. 
What you are doing is pissing people off. You insult their intelligence and not only that but not just before but especially after my depo for Mike, your intrusions and threats and slander and taking my money hoping to make me lie, makes you look guilty as accused. You didn’t know that? Did that really never occur to you? I’m dead on the money or why retaliate and witness tamper? 
This is my testimony and everyone infers guilt from your tampering and threatening and attempts to coerce me. You hadn’t figured that out yet??? Same with slander. No need if the information is wrong and you all didn’t kill Chief Miller and frame Mike. Your attack on me tells everyone else you did. 

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Cease and Desist slanderous and defamatory comments. Cease and Desist interfering with my income. Cease and Desist all contact with me and everyone I know. This is a legal demand. 

“The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.” — Albert Einstein”

McNamara Email

Not much different now than what Cynthia said in The McNamara email. Perry is still doing the same stalking, the same harassing, the same economic and social distress trying to force Cynthia to lie and carrying on same soap opera drama in his head and destroying whatever he can to cover it up. He’s very very much an unwanted imposition a d burden in her life and to everyone in Oklahoma. He’s not wanted in her life. He does nothing but make trouble. His kind of trouble is the kind you don’t just get over. He’s got leaks because everyone is sicking of watching what he does to Cynthia and sick of his threats, and sick of him.

Someone pretending to be Lisa Nealey reached out to Cynthia on Facebook and knew Chief Miller went to her work to find out what was going on with her money. Once confronted they changed the name on the account. Only a few people knew Chief Miller did that.
This shows the name changed on the account but the person continues to pretend to be Lisa Nealey.
This person asks Cynthia about Chief Miller’s visit to her work. Again the problem then and is now again worse than ever Perry’s theft of her income.
Email and text to Sgt Harper with Major Crimes at TPD shows she in March 2020 Officer Nealey was drugged, never tested, and could not have committed the murder he’s accused of committing. Perry has investigators uncovering a whole lot of criminal activity that got this to in March. He is retaliating against Cynthia in attempt to coerce a lie. She said NO repeatedly for years on all of it. She is not going to be starved to death in effort to force or coerce her to lie. Perry has made every effort to do just that and Chief Miller had had enough of it, from.what we understand. Perry and Roberson didn’t like that. They have gone at her worse than ever. At the time this was sent to Sgt Harper, there wasn’t a whole lot he could do being his jurisdiction is Tulsa, not Florida.

Sure as shit he was drugged and first responder testimony shows they treated him for overdose with Narcan.
One of many Cynthia ran off when she caught them at the entrance running off customers or telling them not to buy from her. They come back when she goes inside sometimes. This guy never said he was a cop but held up a badge that he said was from Tulsa and said “You can’t make me leave. I have a badge. ” She replied “I see that. I’d like a picture if it. Hold it up so I can get one, then I’m gonna call the Sheriff and you can show it to him. ” He took off.
Another Perry guy sitting at club entrance running customers off, running Cynthia’s money off to influence her testimony. His guys also will tell customers as they enter to buy from everyone but Cynthia and they do it. His intent is to coerce her to lie, against her will, which means she’s telling the truth about his crimes otherwise he wouldn’t do this. He wouldn’t need to. He needs a lie because he’s a criminal. He’s got a Weirdo problem she’s uncovered with police investigating him on another matter, for the first time in his life.
Not a normal Friday night during the busiest time of year with radio ads running but is normal for Perry’s retaliatory acts after Cynthia’s testimony which was already a problem and what Chief Miller was upset about as anyone would be who is normal. Perry has leaks because people are sick and tired of watching him rob Cynthia blind. He’s a burden. It’s gotten much worse since her subpoena and even worse after her testimony. He’s pissing everyone off same as he did Lucky. This is what the prosecutor said he’d be using to.show “grand larceny with intent to coerce ” He hired an expert to study things who.told him Cynthia should have been pulling in six figures by her third year of dancing. Does that look like she will make six figures when Perry does that to her workplace because he’s mad about her testimony? Everyone is upset. When he contacts her after she’s asked him to stop, invades her privacy, steals her money, interferes in her relationships, lies about her, these guys get more info.than ever. Perry does not seem to mind being caught in crime or he’d stop. He just goes at her and goes at her and goes at her and seems to be unable to control his weirdo urges or understand that his weirdo urges are offensive to the rest of us.
After she was subpoena’d again this person contacted her still asking questions that should have been asked by attorneys in her depo. She does speak to this in her deposition. What’s the desperation here to know who coaxed Officer Nealey to Florida? That’s something the killer might want to flush out. Lisa Nealey most likely would not jeopardize Mike’s case asking questions on Facebook to a subpoena’d witness. And there are other victims of Perry’s crimes. That is need to know right now.

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A reporter commented to police “That facebook for her is the only Facebook on the planet with no discussion or arguments. There should be people on her side, and his arguing and some for or against Mike Nealey going back and forth and there is just nothing at all for four years. That tells me two things 1) He hacked her and is deleting all that. 2) You all are right and he doesn’t want people talking about what he’s doing. The other thing I’m watching is her twitter. Her followers should be growing and they aren’t. So what’s he doing to keep that from happening. There is normal growth on these things and normal conversations you see on every other Facebook and Twitter on the planet but not here. He just does not want people talking about what he’s up to when his wife isn’t around. ” He’s gonna have to explain all this at some point and we all cannot wait to hear all that. There is a reason he wouldn’t face Cynthia fair and square in Court. She will make him explain it and he can’t.

And they still don’t get it. These people get so upset about their leaks but they continue to do things to cause it. Everyone wants them stopped. Crazy Saul at it still. Nothing like saying “Well but we told you so. We told you that’s what they were doing. It’s a crime but they do it anyways then throw a temper tantrum that we knew they were going to before they did it.

Click here to see more documentation of Charles Perry’s decade long tyraid of hell he’s directed at Cynthia Ortiz for rejecting his unwanted romantic advances, reporting his crimes, and trying as hard as she can try to get away from him.

Click here to see updates on Perry carrying out another thing he planned that was recorded.

Cynthia is not going to be forced against her will to go back to Texas or to be in some sick twisted weirdo thing with nut bag Perry. She did tell his attorney “If he wants a lie, have him type one up, I’ll hold a press conference and read it to them for him then get him off my back. If I were not telling the truth, or right, he wouldn’t need a lie now would he. ” She’s willing to hold a press conference to read their lie for them if that gets them off her back. It is their words and their lie, not her’s.


As of November 10, 2020, one year ago today Chief Miller lost his life, Cynthia is still being very badly harrassed by Perry and his Creepy Club. Another cease and desist demand required, not that that compels them to comply with the law, but does give fair notice. See below:

More witness tampering addressed to Defendants and they seem not to understand that if she was wrong they wouldn’t need to coerce a lie or retaliate against her. They still seem not to understand their conduct is deeply offensive and criminal. Another legal demand required:

“I said the more Charles Perry contacts me, the more loss he causes, the more he invades my privacy, the more this happens. People don’t like what you all are doing. Charles Perry has told anyone who will listen of his intent to steal from me, make me go broke, he says so I will call and apologize and he can force me to to take his bribe and lie and back to Texas, none of which I want to do. That is completely and totally all against my will. He wouldn’t need to do all that were he not guilty of serious crime, and were I just making crap up, wrong on my assertions or crazy. He tells everyone that is what his intent is and when you do what you planned that is criminal activity you cannot then deny doing it. Planning is one thing, the act is another. I dont like Charles Perry and want nothing to do with him and everyone on earth knows that but him. It’s been seven years. They more Intel the more you attack and it has been that way since the McNamara email and I realize he gets mad when he’s caught and people tell on him but clearly not mad enough. He’s not taking the hint. He’s not wanted. Normally, when all you do is make trouble, nobody wants you around so why he thinks this is any different, nobody can understand that kind of logic. The shrink working for these “mystery” guys is pretty certain if she gave him a test on logic and reason, he couldn’t pass the one they give to second graders based on what she has seem on evidence they have collected. I can’t say I disagree.

Cease and Desist. We take it as consent when your client knows he’s got leaks, knows he’s often recorded planning crime and does it anyways. Most people have the good sense to stop. This is a legal notice and demand.

Again the more loss he causes and he cause a lot every day, the more he butts in where he’s not wanted, the more he contacts me when he knows I can’t stand it and don’t want to hear from him, the more he invades my privacy the more information they get just like this and that started with the McNamara email and you have been told this repeatedly. It is pissing everyone off and so people do what normal people do and talk to the authorities that are putting a stop to it. Those cops also wanted you reminded of the fact that they have been with me everywhere I go. They got the puzzle to me in jail that has not Charles name on it, but Fabian’s name is on it. McNamara email was in Sapulpa. This was in Tulsa. Everywhere I go, they are too because that’s what I want and because I need the protection from you people. The more you all do, the more you show I need it so the harder they go at you. Sending customers to my work to buy from everyone but me is part of the problem not the answer. Everyone else I work with are not working with these police you keep pissing off, I am. Charles Perry wants to imagine he’s some man of power but I know men of power and they have no time at all to sit around creeping on women and their children. I’m pretty sure Senator Reid and Senator Tubberville spent zero minutes creeping around making trouble like Charles Perry has. That’s not what men of power do with their day.

I want no contact with or from Charles Perry and the more injury he causes, the more these guys go at you all because they can see clearly as anyone with the intelligence above first grade can see that I clearly need it.

This is witness tampering. I’m a witness in a murder trial and there is more you dint even know about yet. Your client’s contact is extremely inappropriate and illegal and for sure maliciously causing any kind of intentional loss with intent to cause me to be so desperate I would lie or be forced to move against my will or do anything against my will is a crime and the more you do that expect more leaks, expect to get caught and expect consequences. Expect it. I want no contact from or with Charles Perry and never will. His delusional imaginary soap opera only exists to him. It’s certainly not real to me at all. He’s weirdo. He’s cruel and I don’t like him. I’ve been rejected and I just moved on. It’s not that hard to do. If your clients had nothing to do with Chief Miller’s murder, then why in THE hell would they need to take my money, hoping to force a phone call, then a bribe out of making me financially desperate, and need a lie? That’s the question everyone wants you to explain, so explain it.”

“The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.” — Albert Einstein”

Disclaimer: we all have the right to free speech and this is based on fact proven by documents herein and all over the net and Court dockets. Apply the word “allegedly” wherever the hell you want to.