Charles Perry Recorded Discussing Forcing Her Entire Family To Sue Her In Another Effort To Force Her To Do And Say What He Demands Against Her Will, Intent To Tamper and Coerce Through Fraud and Litigation Harassment

Several updates are posted below

March 23, 2021 -Perry again interferes with Cynthia ability to appeal. He has been interfering in all civil proceedings from day one, illegally, so this is just more to add to what we already have. This blog alone covers 4 to 5 years of events, dates and times of Charles Perry’s criminal activity. He’s told on because he so badly disturbs people with what he is putting Cynthia and her family through. Never been more told on in his life. Click links below

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1073559836473893&id=100014596601592

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1073520733144470&id=100014596601592

Update March 19, 2021. Perry got caught on trying to isolate Cynthia from her family and now again today trying to again arrange a second false arrest and violate her rights and was wanting to know if she’s read her college Criminal Justice textbook covering prisoner rights. Recorded again.

“It’s public that he was trying again to arrange a second false arrest since the first one didn’t work out and violate my rights while I was there hoping I wouldnt know the difference. He got caught planning a crime against me again.” We’re he not hacking he wouldn’t know what class she was taking or what was in her text book in order to ask these questions. The more he invades her privacy, contacts her, causes duress, stress, problems, drama and loss the easier it is to get this information on his intent to cause harm to prove pre-meditation to cause malicious harm. He intends to coerce. That is his goal. He’s demanded she lie. She’s refused despite having suffered and suffered and suffered loss after after loss because she won’t. See more at the link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=992280804636871&id=183694208828872

Cop in Oklahoma tells cops from somewhere else that have been protecting Cynthia that he is hearing people are tired of Perrys drama and want him gone. He gives warning for Cynthia safety. See link below

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1069773073519236&id=100014596601592

Basically Charles Perry has attempted to entrap Cynthia and that was addressed by a Judge. See link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1071058686724008&id=100014596601592

From the same police investigating Charles Perry on many other criminal matters, who provided all this here, he is recorded again today.

My cop friend said “We got a recording of Charles telling individuals I’ll not disclose at this time who.they are but I’m sure you can guess that he wanted your entire family to sue you, to isolate you, to alienate you thinking that would force you into his bribe and lie. He’s running some pretty suck fantasies through his mind and discussing them with other people and trying to force your family to help him force this in you. They have been threatened and harassed to death same as you have. He’s really gone monster on this this one and it is fraud and we will put him in prison for this in addition to everything else when we complete this investigation into his entire criminal organization. He is to leave you and your family alone. This will just be another charge. It is intimidation, coercion, tampering and fraud and he will be charged. “

If they move forward with what they discussed in this recording my cop friends just got about an hour ago, it will be another criminal charges. They are to cease and desist all contact with me and everyone I know immediately or they will be charged.
What they still are not getting us that leaks come from angry people at watching what they are putting me through and my family. The more Perry contacts me, invades my privacy, butts into things he shouldnt even know about and causes loss the quicker and easier we get information like this. I can’t keep having to repeat myself.

It’s filed under “Let’s See If He Does It” and tagged “fraud” . It’s another threat and duly noted for the record. “

Emailed and documented Perry’s next cruelty.

Tends to support the evaluations of mental health experts who call Perry a sadist, erotomatic delusional stalker, antisocial, sociopath.

For his efforts for the past ten years what Perry ends up with are these recordings of him planning some hideous crime against his target, no chance of a date with her and told on more than ever in his life because what he’s doing is bothering and disturbing people so they leak and it goes to police and ends up here and some other places too within law enforcement. He has no idea who leaks or to who in law enforcement they leak.

See one shrink’s comments at link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1057673624729181&id=100014596601592

The cop tells us “They were recorded and we just got it, discussing the intent to overwhelm you with so many Plaintiffs you won’t have money to fight it. They want your entire family as Plaintiffs to make you feel overwhelmed enough to feel coerced, forced and in duress enough to lie. Perry is intent on forcing you to lie. That’s a crime. If he does this, he will be charged with a crime as will his attorneys and co conspirators. He pissed everyone off again with this vicious attack on you and we got the recording of him planning it, thankfully. They discussed complete diversity, amount in controversy and this is a strategy to coerce and intimidate you.” The police tell Cynthia Ortiz.
You dont do stuff like this if the witness is wrong. You only intimidate witnesses who have something of value. She’s right about Lucky’s murder. They implicate themselves the more they try to do to intimidate witnesses, coerce lies, and cover up their crimes and they do that constantly. “

Quote from Cynthia’s email:

The judge granting investigatory orders said “Why has Mrs Perry not gotten her husband into a mental.hospital by now? She has the legal authority to have him admitted. He’s clearly a danger to himself and others.” The Shrink said “She may be a victim of his abuse too.” He said “At this point there is, in my opinion no excuse for that because once she has him admitted the abuse against her is over. I want her charged too when you guys are done with your investigation and ready to file charges. As far as I’m concerned her failure to act in the best interest of even her own family is aiding and abetting. She needs to be charged as well and her attorney can explain to the Courts why their client let this go on so long in her own house and she did not take the appropriate actions to deal with it as a reasonable prudent individual and you and I both know Perry needs to thank his lucky stars Cynthia rejected him because had she not we all know she would have. We have heard locals in Oklahoma speak to that as well so it appears to me to be common knowledge that were Cynthia in that position she would have had Mr Perry admitted and probably many years ago. ” 
So Jackie is in some trouble too. “

More from her email here:

For some time the police on the need to know, referred to as McNamara Cops” sometimes, have obtained recordings of Charles Perry first discussing “There won’t be a new home for her or a new car. Make sure she can’t get that.” Remember this is the individual who claims he’s not a stalker. He claimed Oklahoma Courts have no jurisdiction. Only after a very big fight was I able to move forward. Then the comments on recordings were “See she can’t complain now. She got what she wanted. ” The response “Did you not see how hard she had to fight just to get a little bitty place to live and a little bitty car. Whatever she has, she has to fight with him to get it and then once she gets it, she has to fight like hell to keep it. This is a grown woman in a free country fight a guy she wants nothing to do with just to have the little bit she has then to keep it. He is not supposed to be in her life at all much less trying to make decisions as to what she can and cannot have. That’s just wrong. ” 
Later Perry was recorded stating “I should never have let her sign a lease. Get her kicked out. Get her out of Oklahoma. ” He wanted a family member to try to talk me into leaving the state. There were discussion.s about where he’d make me move to, and realtors consulted on housing. He told his guys “Get her car away from her and get her kicked out. Get her a bus pass and then she will call me and do what I tell her. They discussed forcing me to move to New Mexico, back to Vegas, Miami, but he wants me out if Oklahoma. Again this is a stalker, not someone I want in my life at all much less making decisions like this. Why would he care where I live? What’s it to him? He’s got an agenda. It’s not good. It’s cruel. Again he’s already testified he has no contacts giving Oklahoma Courts jurisdiction over him. This is an injury. Nothing in my life is any of his business. It’s the same thing as if Boy George fell in love with you, put cameras in your house, had you followed, started trying to get you fired or kicked out of your home, take your car, had meetings with your friends and family and asked them to help hurt you. Imagine what would you do if some person you didn’t like put you through all that because they decided they could and that’s how it was going to be and did it against your will. What would you do? Thank God I have help. That’s all I can say. I’ve done all one can do to try to get away from this whackjob. 
The next thing I knew is the landlord did try.to do a few things Perry was recorded talking about having them do. Now because my family is here, Perry’s conversations over this weekend we’re since asking them to talk me into leaving the state either was nixed for some reason or they refused he discussed a major law suit in which he wanted them all added as Plaintiffs. They discussed whether or not to file the suit in Texas, NM, or Oklahoma. They discussed the amount in controversy being over $75000. They discussed the fact that they wanted the lawsuit to bury me in so many Plaintiffs and hurt me so deeply that I couldn’t fight back and would finally lie for him. He said in the recording “I want her buried so deep in Plaintiffs so that she has no money to fight them all and it cuts her off from her family so she will do what I tell her. ” Again not a person I want in my life at all much less making these kinds of decisions. He’s way overstepping his bounds and this is not only “just wrong” as the guy put it, it’s flat out bazaar. This is abuse. It is domestic violence. It is intended to cause emotional and financial distress. The fact that he does such hideous things to me on an ongoing basis is the reason people tell on him. 
Our shrink spoke to this weeks ago. “When you care about any person at all just as a person and you are asked to do something to hurt another human being and something you know is wrong, that request in and of itself is psychological torture. It causes one to feel stress, anxiety, guilt, depression, they are uncomfortable, they feel creeped out, and disgusted and scared. If they weren’t scared they wouldn’t do it. He’s threatening to ruin businesses and have people false arrested the same as he did to Cynthia. He’s intimidating people, and that is a crime, or there is no way they’d help him at all much less cause such hurtful devastation . He’s a sadist. This a sexual enjoyment for him. Again he couldn’t do it if it wasn’t. He sees it as a relationship because he and only he gets a sexual gratification from doing things to other people that you and I consider heinous and unthinkable. For some when they have seen no way out of what they view is a hard and horrible situation they don’t wish to be in, if we are able to reach out to those individuals without being detected, we have no problem getting full cooperation. We relieve their suffering they feel by being asked to cause someone else suffering. This is for all normal human beings so imagine how much worse it is for Cynthias family and her friends are as tired of watching Perry cause suffering and want for her happiness same as anyone does for their friends and family. It is Psychological torture for both Cynthia and whoever is asked to cause her harm. ” 
One of my friends at work who was asked to harm me told me of what she was asked to do and said “You know it goes against who I am to hurt another person.  I can’t do it. I can’t imagine why he’d want to do somethimg like this to you. I dont understand. I think you are dealing with someone who is wired so fucked up that one strand breaks and he would flip out and do something like shoot up school. I feel like he’s that miswired. Like it scares me. I feel like Mr Perry is that miswired and one wrong move he snaps and you got dead people everywhere but at the same time I cannot hurt you like he asked. I don’t know what to do. You tell me. ” I said “Tell him someone.else intervened and you weren’t able to. ” Whether she did or not I dint know. Next thing I knew, she quit and went to work somewhere else. She just left. That is how deep the disgust goes here with this creep and his delusions imposed on am entire community of good normal people who are sickened by what he’s doing and I have also asked my police friends to include an arrest warrant for Jackie when they.are ready to move forward. There are other people involved in his “business”. They dont want to have any need to plea bargain to get information on other people. They already want all the names and already have a case built against each one so high there is no possibility of a not guilty verdict or them re-entering society ever. That takes longer. Unfortunately it takes longer but at the end of the day the results will be freedom. People who Charles would have robbed of a future will have their future bright and cheery before them with out him in the way. 
He’s told on because his conduct so deeply disturbs that those who tell are sick and disgusted and not tolerant of how hideous he is to me and other people. Never in his life has he had this kind of investigatory body up his ass at all times. He’s not getting it even yet. As many times as I’ve quoted him verbatim while he’s in some meeting asking someone to commit a serious crime and injury to me, it’s still not clicking for him. Nobody understands that. We had five doctors review his case and all five not only believe he’s mentally ill but severely  clinically mentally retarded not to be able to put that together in his head by now. “If you hurt people, you will be told on. You have have no idea who tells or who in law enforcement they tell but you will be told on and you will go to jail. ” That does not click for him at all. Something is clearly wrong with the intellect, logic, and reasoning part of his brain. They want a brain scan. “If you hurt people, they wont like you. ” Also not clicking. “If you invade privacy, you will be known as a sex pervert and not liked. If are mean, nobody will help you be mean. ” Things like that we all learned and understood about social norms and acceptable civilized conduct are not clicking for Charles. Even when I’ve said “You have no chance ever at a date with me. You call any of my ex’s and they will tell you how they treated me to win my heart. Not peeling, not butting in where you dint belong, not crossing boundaries, not taking my family away, not putting me in jail, not taking my car. They did none of what you obsess about doing that I find repulsive. ” This is basic normal knowledge that no one should have to explain to a man of his age at all much less repeatedly and he still can’t grasp that concept. He still doesn’t get it. Goes right over his head thus, the medical preliminary evaluation. Criminologists, criminal psychologist, neurologists and so on can act as consultants for police and gear the very same recordings I’ve heard and make an evaluation. Perry truly believes his own bullshit. He thinks by forcing me against my will to leave my family after he’s threatened and harassed them to death and do things not even normal humans do, I would then call him and do what he wants. Why would he think that? Has he met me? You do that, you will piss me off and I’ll find a legal to fuck you up so bad you won’t recover. That’s me. I don’t bend over for sickos or corrupt like Perry. I don’t do it. I never have. I will get in his face and make him cry for him mamma. Nobody has done more to fight his crime than my team and I. He’s been caught in alleged crime more than ever before in his life since he met me. What does that tell you about how I handle low lifes like him? He’s not the first I’ve handled and he won’t be the last. You fight crime and you relieve suffering or like cancer it will cause death of some sort. I am my Granddad’s Granddaughter (former Police Chief in Roswell NM where I grew up) to my core. I could have taken the bribe long ago. So could my cop friends. They have stood face to face with Perry getting him to divulge all kinds of information and he had no idea. He thought they were voters. Had they wanted a bribe, they would have said something then. 
So all this Perry has tried to do comes down to attempts to coerce. It’s not just creepy stalking of a delusional erotomaniac. It is tampering and attempts to coerce. Why coerce someone who doesn’t know where the bodies are? Why coerce someone who is wrong about Chief Millers murder? What does a reject care about where I live? What I drive? He testified he has no connections to this state giving this state’s courts jurisdiction. Perry is dying for me check dockets. There is not a day that he isn’t pushing that, so why? What corrupt thing did he do that he wants me to see that badly? I will look when I’m told by police to look, not when Perry pushes. Where I live and what I drive and my job is none of his business and doest concern him or he needs to hold a press conference to notify the public that he intentionally lied under oath in a Court of Law about his true activities in the forum state of Oklahoma. Meantime there are 35 guys investigating him that got me all this information that know exactly what Perry is doing in the forum state of Oklahoma and Florida. 
This email is to document the information contained herein to establish intent and pre-meditation to commit come against me, Cynthia Ortiz, in the forum state of Oklahoma where I live by my own choice and free will. “

More here: “

From what I’ve been told, and these are the same police that gave me The McNamara email and everything since, their prosecutor is so disgusted by the fact that I’ve not been heard in any hearing and at the Orders with no explaination, just a signature. I said “A five year old can sign their name on a piece of paper” He said “or a monkey. Where is the evaluation of your evidence, facts, and standard applied with case precedence in any of these orders at all. In my case we aren’t giving him a plea deal option. We will go straight to trial because I’m going to make sure you are heard. This is bullshit. ” 
So you do what you do. Know what the consequences are when you do it.”

More from her email: “I’m not commenting on smoking, but to say my house has always smelled wonderful no matter where I live and I’m always complimented on that. Since he is peeping he can tell everyone whether or not I smoke inside my home. He can explain that one. I won’t comment in it one way or the other.
That is a sick crime, by the way to peep on women.  Since he’s a peeping tom, he can tell everyone whether I smoke inside and explain why my home smells like it smells and how the hell he would know any of that. “

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More on Charles Perrys threats and acts attempting coercion here

Perry has, over the past few days, harassed Cynthia and harrassed and harrassed her about checking the Dockets. Is he expecting her to be happy about whatever corrupt thing he did that will show up there? Is he that delusional? Why do something like that? Why in the hell would anyone do something like that?

More Perry Uncovered Up Cover Up Here

Click here to see Perry’s constant threat to Cynthias car

Click here to see Motion To Intervene Filed On Behalf Of Officer Nealey Which Is The Reason Perry Has Engaged In Coercion And Tampering

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